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Hillary approved giving Russia control of 20% of US uranium. It's obvious that Hillary is better for Russia. I think Putin just likes or admires Trump in an en

by tropo 10y ago

Hillary approved giving Russia control of 20% of US uranium. It's obvious that Hillary is better for Russia. I think Putin just likes or admires Trump in an entirely personal way. Having Putin all starstruck could be a good thing.

nostrademons 10y ago
Putin doesn't like or admire anyone but Putin.
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  Why characterize Putin as a cartoon villain? I'm sure he is more or less a normal man with peers whom he likes, respects, and admires and peers whom he doesn't. Wild caricatures portend propaganda.
  - randac 10y ago
    Hilarious that this was downvoted, with a cowardly lack of discourse as usual. Please, continue to assume Putin is a stereotypical cartoon villain. One would think users of a site like HN would have at least passing knowledge of Occam's Razor...
    - nostrademons 10y ago
      I wasn't the one who downvoted, but I've heard someone who has met him speak (in a semi-private, company-internal event), and his exact words were "Putin is scary." This is from someone who is in tight with the current US administration, and who in the same talk mocked Kim Jong-un saying "North Korea has one export - fear. Everything else, they suck at", so it's not like he's afraid of all world leaders. You don't get to the highest levels of power by being a normal person nor by having other people who you like, respect, and admire, particularly not in a country with a long tradition of autocratic rule. I think that people who are assuming Putin is just another old Joe are projecting their own thought processes onto him, which in a way is admirable - I would love to believe the best in people too - but is at odds with both the culture and history of the country he rules and with the workings of power across all cultures.
      - Relys 10y ago
        One does not simply get into that type of position without being an psychological apex predator. In fact, many high functioning sociopaths are attracted to positions of power both in the business and political worlds.
      - riboflava 10y ago
        Meeting Putin would scare me just on the basis that as ex-KGB he could snap my neck if he was so inclined. I'm not sure that's enough to really characterize the man, though, at least it's little more than what the people who project average-Joeness have. At least with e.g. Larry Ellison we have many independent reports from those that worked with / under him that we can safely agree it is a mistake to anthropomorphize him.
rrggrr 10y ago
This isn't personal or about admiration. This is about Russian leadership responding to immense economic pressures at home. Buttons have been pushed freezing the assets of Putin supporters, sanctions have been imposed, and Putin's supporter's foreign bank accounts appear to have been exposed. May the Russian leadership have deserved it? Irrelevant. Either way, they appear to be pushing back hard. For you kiddies not around during the Cold War, this so far appears to be light hearted fun by comparison.
whyenot 10y ago
There is no evidence that Clinton was directly involved with this decision. Furthermore, the company involved may have 20% of US uranium production capacity, but it actually only produces about 11% of US uranium. Please save the Donald Trump talking points for a more appropriate forum. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-inaccurately-suggests-clinton-got-pai/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/...

by tropo 10y ago

nostrademons 10y ago

Putin doesn't like or admire anyone but Putin.

cookiecaper 10y ago
Why characterize Putin as a cartoon villain? I'm sure he is more or less a normal man with peers whom he likes, respects, and admires and peers whom he doesn't. Wild caricatures portend propaganda.
- randac 10y ago
  Hilarious that this was downvoted, with a cowardly lack of discourse as usual. Please, continue to assume Putin is a stereotypical cartoon villain. One would think users of a site like HN would have at least passing knowledge of Occam's Razor...
  - nostrademons 10y ago
    I wasn't the one who downvoted, but I've heard someone who has met him speak (in a semi-private, company-internal event), and his exact words were "Putin is scary." This is from someone who is in tight with the current US administration, and who in the same talk mocked Kim Jong-un saying "North Korea has one export - fear. Everything else, they suck at", so it's not like he's afraid of all world leaders. You don't get to the highest levels of power by being a normal person nor by having other people who you like, respect, and admire, particularly not in a country with a long tradition of autocratic rule. I think that people who are assuming Putin is just another old Joe are projecting their own thought processes onto him, which in a way is admirable - I would love to believe the best in people too - but is at odds with both the culture and history of the country he rules and with the workings of power across all cultures.
    - Relys 10y ago
      One does not simply get into that type of position without being an psychological apex predator. In fact, many high functioning sociopaths are attracted to positions of power both in the business and political worlds.
    - riboflava 10y ago
      Meeting Putin would scare me just on the basis that as ex-KGB he could snap my neck if he was so inclined. I'm not sure that's enough to really characterize the man, though, at least it's little more than what the people who project average-Joeness have. At least with e.g. Larry Ellison we have many independent reports from those that worked with / under him that we can safely agree it is a mistake to anthropomorphize him.

rrggrr 10y ago

This isn't personal or about admiration. This is about Russian leadership responding to immense economic pressures at home. Buttons have been pushed freezing the assets of Putin supporters, sanctions have been imposed, and Putin's supporter's foreign bank accounts appear to have been exposed. May the Russian leadership have deserved it? Irrelevant. Either way, they appear to be pushing back hard. For you kiddies not around during the Cold War, this so far appears to be light hearted fun by comparison.

whyenot 10y ago

There is no evidence that Clinton was directly involved with this decision. Furthermore, the company involved may have 20% of US uranium production capacity, but it actually only produces about 11% of US uranium. Please save the Donald Trump talking points for a more appropriate forum. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-inaccurately-suggests-clinton-got-pai/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/...