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I found this Wired article: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiWnu6j5cbOAhVCxmMKHfvjC5IQFggeMAA&url=http

by zasz 10y ago

I found this Wired article: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiWnu6j5cbOAhVCxmMKHfvjC5IQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2F2016%2F06%2Ftor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-resigns-amid-sex-abuse-claims%2F&usg=AFQjCNHQFG5mkMDPLt05o461PoHVVwTq6Q&sig2=hEH0dZmdcNv4WAznNbF6lw https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c... Basically, multiple women accused Jake Applebaum, a big shot in the Tor community, of sexually assaulting them, and his ex-girlfriend (the OP) was made into a pariah for defending him. For what it's worth, if the accusations are true, it's not improbable that he would've refrained from being an ass to his ex-girlfriend. Brock Turner, the Stanford rapist, has a female friend who wrote a moving testimony to what a great friend he was.

TillE 10y ago
> it's not improbable that he would've refrained from being an ass to his ex-girlfriend That's not what she says: "Still, I do have a weird feeling about many of these stories because they contain facts I know are wrong" Remember that time a couple people accused Appelbaum of sexually harrassing a woman, and then she said that's not what happened at all? Yeah. The sad thing is that I'm fairly confident that most of the stories are true. But they're mixed in with some real garbage from people who hate Jake for weird reasons, which makes them seem less credible. Awful tactics.
- zasz 10y ago
  I'm responding to the part in her email where she said Jake was a great guy who had always treated her right.
  - gdy 10y ago
    You misrepresented it as a basis for her position.
zorpner 10y ago
It's a pattern. See e.g. Alison Macrina's post, in which she cites an instance prior to her own assault where Jacob Applebaum used their relationship to recruit her into defending him regarding a situation she didn't personally witness: https://medium.com/@flexlibris/theres-really-no-such-thing-as-the-voiceless-92b3fa45134d https://medium.com/@flexlibris/theres-really-no-such-thing-a...
lawnchair_larry 10y ago
Well that's not a very impartial summary.
- zasz 10y ago
  It's pretty fair. Everything in that summary is a fact.
  - mejari 10y ago
    Only presenting facts doesn't make something fair. Deciding which facts to present can affect a statement's fairness.

by zasz 10y ago

TillE 10y ago

> it's not improbable that he would've refrained from being an ass to his ex-girlfriend That's not what she says: "Still, I do have a weird feeling about many of these stories because they contain facts I know are wrong" Remember that time a couple people accused Appelbaum of sexually harrassing a woman, and then she said that's not what happened at all? Yeah. The sad thing is that I'm fairly confident that most of the stories are true. But they're mixed in with some real garbage from people who hate Jake for weird reasons, which makes them seem less credible. Awful tactics.

zasz 10y ago
I'm responding to the part in her email where she said Jake was a great guy who had always treated her right.
- gdy 10y ago
  You misrepresented it as a basis for her position.

zorpner 10y ago

It's a pattern. See e.g. Alison Macrina's post, in which she cites an instance prior to her own assault where Jacob Applebaum used their relationship to recruit her into defending him regarding a situation she didn't personally witness: https://medium.com/@flexlibris/theres-really-no-such-thing-as-the-voiceless-92b3fa45134d https://medium.com/@flexlibris/theres-really-no-such-thing-a...

lawnchair_larry 10y ago

Well that's not a very impartial summary.

zasz 10y ago
It's pretty fair. Everything in that summary is a fact.
- mejari 10y ago
  Only presenting facts doesn't make something fair. Deciding which facts to present can affect a statement's fairness.