Exactly, and I'm saying if their focus would shift a little and, if absolutely necessary, take wars into the cyber realm, then more progress would come out of t

Exactly, and I'm saying if their focus would shift a little and, if absolutely necessary, take wars into the cyber realm, then more progress would come out of that which is applicable in civilian life. We just need the right goals for the desired side products to emerge. The race to get someone on the moon and back was one such overarching goal.