Are we talking about Ron Sugar here? He has never actually had a position in government where he sold out the public to drop bombs on the children of the other

Are we talking about Ron Sugar here? He has never actually had a position in government where he sold out the public to drop bombs on the children of the other side of the world. So no, I don't put him in the same category as Sec. Rice. However, even if I did: This is definitely Apples-and-Oranges. Apple is a company that is difficult to replicate. A household name. It has established supply chains around the world and a retail presence in many major cities. I don't think that Apple's value is anywhere near as dependent on trust as Dropbox's is. And having a known liar, torturer, and war criminal on your board doesn't scream trust. Now, do I think Apple is a bad company? Hell yeah. I don't use their products either. But I think they're bad more for their behavior vis a vis IP (eg, the Samsung bezel claim) than for the constitution of their board. edit: I totally forgot that they put Al Gore on the board. Is that who you mean? If so, yeah, I don't put him alongside Condi.