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Needs citation?

leothekim 10y ago
I don't have a relevant citation, but I assume it's Condoleeza Rice that the parent commenter is referring to? https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dropbox/advisors https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dropbox/advisors A website with some relevant background: http://www.drop-dropbox.com http://www.drop-dropbox.com
- bduerst 10y ago
  She also teaches at Stanford - should we drop them and their graduates too? I never got this line of thinking.
  - jMyles 10y ago
    I think she has the capacity to be an effective educator, helping others to avoid doing the evil she has done. But first, she needs to apologize. This is obvious. So yes, I think that anybody who regards her as a compelling part of their education needs to explain how they intend to avoid repeating her mistakes.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    Worst of all, she's a college football fan.
  - derptron 10y ago
    What don't you get? She is a former National Security Advisor who used to authorize warrantless wiretaps. Do you think this information is more relevant to education or mass data storage?
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barking 10y ago
Well it's common knowledge that the person he's talking about was a senior member of Bush's cabinet when the war on Iraq in 2003 was launched on a false premise.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Well it's common knowledge that the person he's talking about was a senior member of Bush's cabinet when the war on Iraq in 2003 was launched Can something be "common knowledge" and still be false? While the person involved later became a senior cabinet member as Secretary of State, at the time the war in Iraq was launched, Rice was not only not a "senior member of Bush's cabinet", but she wasn't a member of the cabinet at all. At that time, she was Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (popularly, "National Security Advisor"), a position that is a member of the National Security Council, but not the cabinet.
  - jMyles 10y ago
    By all the accounts of which I'm aware, Rice had just as much of Bush's ear during her time as NSA as Sec of State. Do you have any reason to believe that she was in the dark in 2003?
    - mfairbank 10y ago
      Bob Woodward chronicled the access Rice had to Bush in his book "Bush at War"[0]. His impression matches your own. According to Woodward's account, her de facto role as National Security Advisor (before her tenure as Secretary of State) was to meet with the principals (Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell) without the President, and then discuss alone with the President the positions of his various cabinet members. Rice met one-on-one with Bush much more often than the others, especially Powell. That said, her explicit role at the time was more about collating data and balancing priorities, not advancing her agenda. But it is definitely fair to say she had the President's ear during this period, perhaps more so than any other national security administration official. On an semi-related note, "Bush at War" is a great, quick read about the months following 9/11, with a breathless day-by-day account of the meetings and phone calls held between the President and his advisors. Woodward had unparalleled access during this period, including multiple in-person interviews with Bush both in Washington and in Crawford. Fair warning, he does not mince words on his dissatisfaction with Bush's performance. [0]: https://www.amazon.com/Bush-at-War-Bob-Woodward/dp/0743244613 https://www.amazon.com/Bush-at-War-Bob-Woodward/dp/074324461...
jMyles 10y ago
Of what, exactly? That Rice is still on the board? Or are you trying to rehash whether she is a trust liability for the company? Here are plenty of links to primary sources: http://www.drop-dropbox.com/ http://www.drop-dropbox.com/

Needs citation?

I don't have a relevant citation, but I assume it's Condoleeza Rice that the parent commenter is referring to? https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dropbox/advisors https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dropbox/advisors A website with some relevant background: http://www.drop-dropbox.com http://www.drop-dropbox.com

bduerst 10y ago
She also teaches at Stanford - should we drop them and their graduates too? I never got this line of thinking.
- jMyles 10y ago
  I think she has the capacity to be an effective educator, helping others to avoid doing the evil she has done. But first, she needs to apologize. This is obvious. So yes, I think that anybody who regards her as a compelling part of their education needs to explain how they intend to avoid repeating her mistakes.
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Worst of all, she's a college football fan.
- derptron 10y ago
  What don't you get? She is a former National Security Advisor who used to authorize warrantless wiretaps. Do you think this information is more relevant to education or mass data storage?

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barking 10y ago

Well it's common knowledge that the person he's talking about was a senior member of Bush's cabinet when the war on Iraq in 2003 was launched on a false premise.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Well it's common knowledge that the person he's talking about was a senior member of Bush's cabinet when the war on Iraq in 2003 was launched Can something be "common knowledge" and still be false? While the person involved later became a senior cabinet member as Secretary of State, at the time the war in Iraq was launched, Rice was not only not a "senior member of Bush's cabinet", but she wasn't a member of the cabinet at all. At that time, she was Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (popularly, "National Security Advisor"), a position that is a member of the National Security Council, but not the cabinet.
- jMyles 10y ago
  By all the accounts of which I'm aware, Rice had just as much of Bush's ear during her time as NSA as Sec of State. Do you have any reason to believe that she was in the dark in 2003?
  - mfairbank 10y ago
    Bob Woodward chronicled the access Rice had to Bush in his book "Bush at War"[0]. His impression matches your own. According to Woodward's account, her de facto role as National Security Advisor (before her tenure as Secretary of State) was to meet with the principals (Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell) without the President, and then discuss alone with the President the positions of his various cabinet members. Rice met one-on-one with Bush much more often than the others, especially Powell. That said, her explicit role at the time was more about collating data and balancing priorities, not advancing her agenda. But it is definitely fair to say she had the President's ear during this period, perhaps more so than any other national security administration official. On an semi-related note, "Bush at War" is a great, quick read about the months following 9/11, with a breathless day-by-day account of the meetings and phone calls held between the President and his advisors. Woodward had unparalleled access during this period, including multiple in-person interviews with Bush both in Washington and in Crawford. Fair warning, he does not mince words on his dissatisfaction with Bush's performance. [0]: https://www.amazon.com/Bush-at-War-Bob-Woodward/dp/0743244613 https://www.amazon.com/Bush-at-War-Bob-Woodward/dp/074324461...

jMyles 10y ago

Of what, exactly? That Rice is still on the board? Or are you trying to rehash whether she is a trust liability for the company? Here are plenty of links to primary sources: http://www.drop-dropbox.com/ http://www.drop-dropbox.com/