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This is the biggest reason I stuck to Win 7. Windows update process is an abomination and can't understand how its allowed. Two of my other systems booted up a

This is the biggest reason I stuck to Win 7. Windows update process is an abomination and can't understand how its allowed. Two of my other systems booted up and took 30 minutes for updates to install before logging me in. One is a PC stick and other is a desktop. Unacceptable waste of my time. I should be able to choose which updates.

joering2 10y ago
Can you or someone suggest what to do after new laptops won't accept Windows 7 anymore? At this point with new lap I just buy Windows 7 and Office 2010 and with limited updates first then turned off I'm a happy camper and hadn't had issue, virus or malware since 2007. I tried Mac few times but for someone who loves Total Commander, I was totally lost :( Will any Linux with decent GUI do it?
- CommanderData 10y ago
  Windows 7 was extended to support Skylake. I'm not sure if Microsoft was backtracking after their original announcement or if limited Skylake support was part of their ultimate overlordian plan to have everyone switch to Windows 10. Original: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3023533/microsoft-windows/microsoft-support-windows-10-new-hardware-itbwcw.html http://www.computerworld.com/article/3023533/microsoft-windo... Later: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/225075-microsoft-gives-skylake-a-one-year-reprieve-will-support-windows-7-through-2017 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/225075-microsoft-gives-... Whether Intel's new processor, Kaby Lake, is supported by Windows 7 I don't know. If someone does I would be interested. Seems Microsoft's aggressive upgrade strategy has not ended even though the recent successful lawsuits.
  - Silhouette 10y ago
    Unfortunately, under Microsoft's current terms, it looks like OEMs won't be allowed to supply new machines with Windows 7 or 8.1 preinstalled after 31 October this year.[1] So as things stand, if you buy a new PC with Windows after that date, you're getting Windows 10 preinstalled whether you like it or not. In some cases, it looks like downgrade rights might still apply, but that involves a lot of hassle and may depend on the willingness of your OEM to support it. Whether the OEMs will actually stand for this, I don't know. Vendors we buy from still tend to supply Windows 7 Pro by default on new business laptops, for example, which suits us (small business environment) fine since we have no interest in moving to Windows 10. If Microsoft turns around in a couple of months and tells OEMs they can no longer sell what their customers want to buy, there's going to be a mighty fight. [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
    - basch 10y ago
      Windows Pro comes with downgrade rights. Buy 10 Pro, downgrade to 7 yourself.
      - Silhouette 10y ago
        As I said, downgrading that way involves a lot of hassle and potentially relies on the willingness of your OEM to support it. It's hardly an improvement on just buying a machine with the OS you actually want already installed and working, which is what we have today.
tempVariable 10y ago
Yup. I made the jump reluctantly after running Windows 7 Pro workstation for years without issues. I did the upgrade to version 10 and have since had to recover or completely rebuild the install 3 times in 6 months. Each time after an update Each time that Windows update comes in and forces me to update and shut down is a day I dread. This hardware worked so well under Windows 7 and causes headaches under Windows 10.

joering2 10y ago

Can you or someone suggest what to do after new laptops won't accept Windows 7 anymore? At this point with new lap I just buy Windows 7 and Office 2010 and with limited updates first then turned off I'm a happy camper and hadn't had issue, virus or malware since 2007. I tried Mac few times but for someone who loves Total Commander, I was totally lost :( Will any Linux with decent GUI do it?

CommanderData 10y ago
Windows 7 was extended to support Skylake. I'm not sure if Microsoft was backtracking after their original announcement or if limited Skylake support was part of their ultimate overlordian plan to have everyone switch to Windows 10. Original: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3023533/microsoft-windows/microsoft-support-windows-10-new-hardware-itbwcw.html http://www.computerworld.com/article/3023533/microsoft-windo... Later: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/225075-microsoft-gives-skylake-a-one-year-reprieve-will-support-windows-7-through-2017 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/225075-microsoft-gives-... Whether Intel's new processor, Kaby Lake, is supported by Windows 7 I don't know. If someone does I would be interested. Seems Microsoft's aggressive upgrade strategy has not ended even though the recent successful lawsuits.
- Silhouette 10y ago
  Unfortunately, under Microsoft's current terms, it looks like OEMs won't be allowed to supply new machines with Windows 7 or 8.1 preinstalled after 31 October this year.[1] So as things stand, if you buy a new PC with Windows after that date, you're getting Windows 10 preinstalled whether you like it or not. In some cases, it looks like downgrade rights might still apply, but that involves a lot of hassle and may depend on the willingness of your OEM to support it. Whether the OEMs will actually stand for this, I don't know. Vendors we buy from still tend to supply Windows 7 Pro by default on new business laptops, for example, which suits us (small business environment) fine since we have no interest in moving to Windows 10. If Microsoft turns around in a couple of months and tells OEMs they can no longer sell what their customers want to buy, there's going to be a mighty fight. [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...
  - basch 10y ago
    Windows Pro comes with downgrade rights. Buy 10 Pro, downgrade to 7 yourself.
    - Silhouette 10y ago
      As I said, downgrading that way involves a lot of hassle and potentially relies on the willingness of your OEM to support it. It's hardly an improvement on just buying a machine with the OS you actually want already installed and working, which is what we have today.

tempVariable 10y ago

Yup. I made the jump reluctantly after running Windows 7 Pro workstation for years without issues. I did the upgrade to version 10 and have since had to recover or completely rebuild the install 3 times in 6 months. Each time after an update Each time that Windows update comes in and forces me to update and shut down is a day I dread. This hardware worked so well under Windows 7 and causes headaches under Windows 10.