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A different experience: I'm working on an android project at the moment. I emailed JetBrains 10 days ago asking why the Intellij Ultimate IDE blocks the UI so g

A different experience: I'm working on an android project at the moment. I emailed JetBrains 10 days ago asking why the Intellij Ultimate IDE blocks the UI so generously. I characterized it as heavy handed and frequently unnecessary. I pointed out the workaround I use is to switch to a competing product during these moments. I suggested it diminishes developer productivity. I said that competing products have the same problem and solving it would be a big win for enterprise customers. I didn't get $50K (not expected) or even the courtesy of a response (expected).

nhumrich 10y ago
A really bad security bug report is going to get a lot more attention than a feature request. Threatening them with "I will use a competitor" means loss of a single customer. Not quite the same as "my entire company was compromised and we lost millions of dollars due to a security bug"
- grizzles 10y ago
  It was written in a constructive way, not as a threat. For me, the competing product is vim. All I'm saying is, I think I deserved a response for trying to help them improve their product. Maybe that's too much to ask, idk.
  - xgbi 10y ago
    > For me, the competing product is vim. This sounds like a troll. I would expect that the guys at Jetbrains get screamed at quite often for their IDE's memory and CPU consumption (they even have a "low power" mode, which is quite telling). But on the other hand, users (I am in that group) of Jetbrains IDEs are there for the sheer awesomeness of their inspections and refactoring abilities. UI perfs notwithstanding, they have the best tools out there. So you comparing their product to Vim shows how trollish (or really badly constructed) your argument is. You can't compare the two of them seriously, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Jetbrains team simply glanced at your email and classified it as "troll" or "don't bother with extremists".
    - Noseshine 10y ago
      The "low power" mode is for stopping running the many inspections on the code continuously while you are typing. That's hundreds of code checks and often an external code check tool as well (eslint in my case). Obviously, running all those extra tools while typing uses quite a bit of extra power. It has nothing to do with "this IDE is fat" (it is, but that's a separate issue), but with the amount of features run continuously. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11725605/what-is-power-save-mode-in-intellij-idea-and-other-jetbrains-ides http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11725605/what-is-power-sa...
    - grizzles 10y ago
      I didn't compare it to vim to them. The reason I mentioned vim above was because of nhumrich's inference that I was "threatening them", which was totally false. In my message, I was very polite and constructive. My point was based on the business case for fixing something that inconveniences the customer so much. I didn't realize that I walked on such sacred ground when I tried to improve the product that you seem to love so much. I'm still not sure why it needs to block me from editing some files while I have to wait 5+ minutes while it does an unrelated update. If that's extremist then so be it.

nhumrich 10y ago

A really bad security bug report is going to get a lot more attention than a feature request. Threatening them with "I will use a competitor" means loss of a single customer. Not quite the same as "my entire company was compromised and we lost millions of dollars due to a security bug"

grizzles 10y ago
It was written in a constructive way, not as a threat. For me, the competing product is vim. All I'm saying is, I think I deserved a response for trying to help them improve their product. Maybe that's too much to ask, idk.
- xgbi 10y ago
  > For me, the competing product is vim. This sounds like a troll. I would expect that the guys at Jetbrains get screamed at quite often for their IDE's memory and CPU consumption (they even have a "low power" mode, which is quite telling). But on the other hand, users (I am in that group) of Jetbrains IDEs are there for the sheer awesomeness of their inspections and refactoring abilities. UI perfs notwithstanding, they have the best tools out there. So you comparing their product to Vim shows how trollish (or really badly constructed) your argument is. You can't compare the two of them seriously, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Jetbrains team simply glanced at your email and classified it as "troll" or "don't bother with extremists".
  - Noseshine 10y ago
    The "low power" mode is for stopping running the many inspections on the code continuously while you are typing. That's hundreds of code checks and often an external code check tool as well (eslint in my case). Obviously, running all those extra tools while typing uses quite a bit of extra power. It has nothing to do with "this IDE is fat" (it is, but that's a separate issue), but with the amount of features run continuously. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11725605/what-is-power-save-mode-in-intellij-idea-and-other-jetbrains-ides http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11725605/what-is-power-sa...
  - grizzles 10y ago
    I didn't compare it to vim to them. The reason I mentioned vim above was because of nhumrich's inference that I was "threatening them", which was totally false. In my message, I was very polite and constructive. My point was based on the business case for fixing something that inconveniences the customer so much. I didn't realize that I walked on such sacred ground when I tried to improve the product that you seem to love so much. I'm still not sure why it needs to block me from editing some files while I have to wait 5+ minutes while it does an unrelated update. If that's extremist then so be it.