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>Or you could whine about why you deserve to get Canada's best at insulting wages. Maybe that will work. Had a opportunity with a Ontario based startup, their

>Or you could whine about why you deserve to get Canada's best at insulting wages. Maybe that will work. Had a opportunity with a Ontario based startup, their starting package was 40k and they wanted me to relocate. When pushing for a better salary, I was told this was the best they could offer. Fucking insulting wage for a backend developer (Go/Appengine)

flamedoge 10y ago
Again and again, why don't Canadian companies understand that CS graduate can easily earn 100k in the states and can actually afford a house? How can they offer what they offer and stay competitive?
- yazaddaruvala 10y ago
  I grew up in Vancouver, went to high-school there, whet to UBC there. My family is in Vancouver. The majority of my friends are in Vancouver. I own real-estate in Vancouver. I eventually want to move back to Vancouver. I can safely say I love Vancouver. However, I currently live in Seattle. Why? The money! As frustrating as it is to admit, and as uninteresting as it is, the simple answer is usually the most appropriate: Canadian companies like their tier-2 low wage talent (and some tier-1 low wage talent - who prefer Canada). Its good enough for their usecases, and it gets the job done. Meanwhile, they like to complain that they can't hire tier-1 low wage talent. That is the only answer I can come up with!
  - flamedoge 10y ago
    Any real innovation flocks to the states if they become any relevant.
  - dgemm 10y ago
    I hate that this is true, as another Canadian Seattelite.
  - throwwit 10y ago
    Seems the philosophy Canada is going with is 'revolving-door', by balancing emigration with immigration[1][2]. What happens when the economy slows and there's record household debt? There should be more bedrock jobs than just a derivative function of the global economy. [1]http://www.canadianbusiness.com/innovation/how-canadas-immigration-policy-is-failing-high-tech-startups/ http://www.canadianbusiness.com/innovation/how-canadas-immig... [2] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-increase-immigration-labour-shortages-1.3718831 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-...
anon_cowherd 10y ago
As a naive college graduate, I accepted a package that pathetic to commute from Brampton to Markham every day. I might as well have been paying them for the privilege of working!

flamedoge 10y ago

Again and again, why don't Canadian companies understand that CS graduate can easily earn 100k in the states and can actually afford a house? How can they offer what they offer and stay competitive?

yazaddaruvala 10y ago
I grew up in Vancouver, went to high-school there, whet to UBC there. My family is in Vancouver. The majority of my friends are in Vancouver. I own real-estate in Vancouver. I eventually want to move back to Vancouver. I can safely say I love Vancouver. However, I currently live in Seattle. Why? The money! As frustrating as it is to admit, and as uninteresting as it is, the simple answer is usually the most appropriate: Canadian companies like their tier-2 low wage talent (and some tier-1 low wage talent - who prefer Canada). Its good enough for their usecases, and it gets the job done. Meanwhile, they like to complain that they can't hire tier-1 low wage talent. That is the only answer I can come up with!
- flamedoge 10y ago
  Any real innovation flocks to the states if they become any relevant.
- dgemm 10y ago
  I hate that this is true, as another Canadian Seattelite.
- throwwit 10y ago
  Seems the philosophy Canada is going with is 'revolving-door', by balancing emigration with immigration[1][2]. What happens when the economy slows and there's record household debt? There should be more bedrock jobs than just a derivative function of the global economy. [1]http://www.canadianbusiness.com/innovation/how-canadas-immigration-policy-is-failing-high-tech-startups/ http://www.canadianbusiness.com/innovation/how-canadas-immig... [2] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-increase-immigration-labour-shortages-1.3718831 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-...

anon_cowherd 10y ago

As a naive college graduate, I accepted a package that pathetic to commute from Brampton to Markham every day. I might as well have been paying them for the privilege of working!