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> downmodded HN is going to hell just as proggit did and digg before it. If anyone that downvoted me bothered to explain why they did it that would be great. N

> downmodded HN is going to hell just as proggit did and digg before it. If anyone that downvoted me bothered to explain why they did it that would be great. Nobody has proven anything I wrote wrong, so apparently I'm getting downvoted for sentiment. > Can you name a specific aspect of the telemetry that you don't like that you can't turn off in SP1? Haven't upgraded to SP1 yet. If there's still typing telemetry thing without any concrete official explanation whatsover of how it works then that's still a problem. > Ubuntu Has its own problems, agreed. Thankfully they've corrected some of their behavior in 16.04, unfortunately crash reports are still getting transmitter if you don't disable it. > shady authors Obviously take anything Vaughan-Nichols writes with a big grain of salt. > I wrestle with the "right" thing In my mind it's very simple - if users have reasonable expectancy of privacy then any features should be turned on only after informed consent has been obtained.

KirinDave 10y ago
> Haven't upgraded to SP1 yet. If there's still typing telemetry thing without any concrete official explanation whatsover of how it works then that's still a problem There isn't any evidence of typing telemetry. I haven't seen any technical assessment that suggests otherwise, just click bait assumptions it is there. The only place keystrokes get sent that we know of is the Cortana field for web searches, and you can turn that off even pre-SP1.
- RaleyField 10y ago
  > typing telemetry Have you missed big fat "Send Microsoft info about how I write to help us improve typing and writing in the future" in the privacy section of settings? > The only place keystrokes get sent that we know We don't know how it works. I've searched and there's only baseless speculation (hello) that it's benign but there aren't any official documents detailing how it works that would dispel many people's reservations. > The only place keystrokes get sent that we know of is the Cortana field for web searches, and you can turn that off even pre-SP1. How do you KNOW that? The setting mentioned above doesn't mention Cortana, one would expect the setting mention Cortana if it only pertained to that subsystem.
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    Sorry, no previews.
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    Oh by the way, I knew I remmebered this. The specific setting your referring to has to do with helping Cortana recognize unusual words and common phrase in your vocabulary, according to Microsoft. All the speech services are supposed to be kept off cloud for desktop machines, so presumably this particular feature is more about sync and correction rates.
    - RaleyField 10y ago
      Mind providing link that would prove this? I looked a decent amount of time and couldn't find anything relevant other than a few articles on how to disable settings or providing some vagueries. If it exists this explanation certainly isn't front and center, perhaps an obscure C9 video?
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KirinDave 10y ago

> Haven't upgraded to SP1 yet. If there's still typing telemetry thing without any concrete official explanation whatsover of how it works then that's still a problem There isn't any evidence of typing telemetry. I haven't seen any technical assessment that suggests otherwise, just click bait assumptions it is there. The only place keystrokes get sent that we know of is the Cortana field for web searches, and you can turn that off even pre-SP1.

RaleyField 10y ago
> typing telemetry Have you missed big fat "Send Microsoft info about how I write to help us improve typing and writing in the future" in the privacy section of settings? > The only place keystrokes get sent that we know We don't know how it works. I've searched and there's only baseless speculation (hello) that it's benign but there aren't any official documents detailing how it works that would dispel many people's reservations. > The only place keystrokes get sent that we know of is the Cortana field for web searches, and you can turn that off even pre-SP1. How do you KNOW that? The setting mentioned above doesn't mention Cortana, one would expect the setting mention Cortana if it only pertained to that subsystem.
- KirinDave 10y ago
  Sorry, no previews.
- KirinDave 10y ago
  Oh by the way, I knew I remmebered this. The specific setting your referring to has to do with helping Cortana recognize unusual words and common phrase in your vocabulary, according to Microsoft. All the speech services are supposed to be kept off cloud for desktop machines, so presumably this particular feature is more about sync and correction rates.
  - RaleyField 10y ago
    Mind providing link that would prove this? I looked a decent amount of time and couldn't find anything relevant other than a few articles on how to disable settings or providing some vagueries. If it exists this explanation certainly isn't front and center, perhaps an obscure C9 video?
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