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They didn't google translate back and forth a few times, because both google and the NSA would have a copy of the originals, and that would out their original t

by kardos 10y ago

They didn't google translate back and forth a few times, because both google and the NSA would have a copy of the originals, and that would out their original text / writing style.

kuschku 10y ago
Not necessarily, there's a way to run Google Translate offline (the app can download translation files, and you can then run it even after you rip out every antenna physically and put the phone in a faraday cage)
- kardos 10y ago
  The list of people who downloaded an offline google translate app followed by their phone going dark is probably not lengthy.
  - kuschku 10y ago
    That's why you buy a 10$ android phone at black friday sale, download via public WiFi in a mall in a different city than your own, preferably a different country when you're just travelling through, and so on. Btw, if you're in Germany, you might still have a chance to get an anonymous prepaid SIM in the next weeks before the carriers adapt to the legal change - you can use that, too.
    - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
      I believe anonymous prepaid SIMs will keep existing in the UK for a long time. I used to have a Tesco Pay-as-you-go SIM card, bought and topped-up anonymously with cash, £12.50 a month for a semi-usable package with 1 GB data. Looks like they still have them: http://shop.tescomobile.com/pay-monthly/sim-only/Tesco+Mobile/simonly/tariff http://shop.tescomobile.com/pay-monthly/sim-only/Tesco+Mobil... With roaming in the EU becoming free mid-2017, and Brexit not coming into effect til 2019, the whole EU will still be well covered by anonymous prepaid.
  - Godel_unicode 10y ago
    You think not? Download dictionary before international flight, travel, lose phone.
    - kardos 10y ago
      So further filter by those who didn't travel shortly afterwards. Small enough list yet?
- colejohnson66 10y ago
  Or just simply use Tor, right?
  - kuschku 10y ago
    Well, if you're trying to fight the NSA, Tor might not be good enough anymore. Just like they sent a takedown to every site hosting content from the shadowbreakers, they might just send a SWAT team to every Tor node your data ran through, and try to track you. And that's in addition to whatever TAO has in their reportoire.
    - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
      Tor development sprang out of a US Navy project. The US government has probably been able to intercept Tor for a long time if it's important enough; they just have to have more than 40% of all nodes (IIRC) and they win. There's only ~10k relays + bridges in the entire network. 4000 computers is utter pocket change compared to the NSAs hardware budget.

by kardos 10y ago

They didn't google translate back and forth a few times, because both google and the NSA would have a copy of the originals, and that would out their original text / writing style.

kuschku 10y ago

Not necessarily, there's a way to run Google Translate offline (the app can download translation files, and you can then run it even after you rip out every antenna physically and put the phone in a faraday cage)

kardos 10y ago
The list of people who downloaded an offline google translate app followed by their phone going dark is probably not lengthy.
- kuschku 10y ago
  That's why you buy a 10$ android phone at black friday sale, download via public WiFi in a mall in a different city than your own, preferably a different country when you're just travelling through, and so on. Btw, if you're in Germany, you might still have a chance to get an anonymous prepaid SIM in the next weeks before the carriers adapt to the legal change - you can use that, too.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    I believe anonymous prepaid SIMs will keep existing in the UK for a long time. I used to have a Tesco Pay-as-you-go SIM card, bought and topped-up anonymously with cash, £12.50 a month for a semi-usable package with 1 GB data. Looks like they still have them: http://shop.tescomobile.com/pay-monthly/sim-only/Tesco+Mobile/simonly/tariff http://shop.tescomobile.com/pay-monthly/sim-only/Tesco+Mobil... With roaming in the EU becoming free mid-2017, and Brexit not coming into effect til 2019, the whole EU will still be well covered by anonymous prepaid.
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  You think not? Download dictionary before international flight, travel, lose phone.
  - kardos 10y ago
    So further filter by those who didn't travel shortly afterwards. Small enough list yet?
colejohnson66 10y ago
Or just simply use Tor, right?
- kuschku 10y ago
  Well, if you're trying to fight the NSA, Tor might not be good enough anymore. Just like they sent a takedown to every site hosting content from the shadowbreakers, they might just send a SWAT team to every Tor node your data ran through, and try to track you. And that's in addition to whatever TAO has in their reportoire.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    Tor development sprang out of a US Navy project. The US government has probably been able to intercept Tor for a long time if it's important enough; they just have to have more than 40% of all nodes (IIRC) and they win. There's only ~10k relays + bridges in the entire network. 4000 computers is utter pocket change compared to the NSAs hardware budget.