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Several of the comments seem confused about why the process isn't entirely straightforward. Here's an example: Say I have $100 mn under management at an index
by oli5679 10y ago
Several of the comments seem confused about why the process isn't entirely straightforward. Here's an example:
Say I have $100 mn under management at an index fund.
When the markets close on Thursday, I have a 5 mn weighting in Apple and its market capitalisation is equal to 5% of the S & P 500 index.
On Friday morning, Tim Cooke makes an inspiring speech about the iCar and Apple's market cap rises to 8% of of the S & P index.
I want to sell some of my other positions and buy Apple so that I still have a balanced weighting of S & P 500 shares. However, I face a tradeoff.
If I do this in small bursts over the course of the day, I have a higher administrative burden. I also risk running up bigger transaction fees if Elon Musk makes another speech in the afternoon unveiling the Tesla-phone, forcing me to sell again after Apple falls back down to 5%.
If I wait until 3.59 to place a massive sell order for all my other stocks and buy order for Apple, (a) market participants might think I know something about Apple, causing the price to rise yet further as I struggle to complete my order (b) sneaky traders could buy up Apple Stock at 3.55 and then sell to me at 3.59 for a higher price.
This is the balancing act a passive fund manager faces.
Edit:
As comments point out, this example is incorrect. First example should say something like Apple splitting into Apple and iPhone and then the relative prices changing after the split. The second half still makes sense.
- Hermel 10y agoThis example does not work. If Apple raises from 5% to 8% of the SP500, it also raises from 5% to 8% of your portfolio. No rebalancing is needed when weighting stocks by market cap.
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- anonu 10y agoThat's correct. A passive index manager is passive - they don't have to worry about some balancing act. It differs from active management because the manager isn't making decisions about which stocks are in the fund. Where the passive fund manager has to do work is on index rebalances and on any constituent corporate action.
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- kgwgk 10y agoIf Apple is 5% of the index and it is 5% of your portfolio then you don't have to do anything. If Apple stock goes up and makes 8% of the index, then it's also 8% of your portfolio.
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- kgwgk 10y agoIf Apple spins off the iPhone business, your portfolio, like the index, will have both newApple and iphoneCo. If the relative price changes, won't the effect on your portfolio be the same as the effect on the index?
- oli5679 10y agoYeah, its going from bad to worse! Comments on this post have been really helpful in highlighting my ignorance on a topic I thought I understood.