>It amazes me that it's 2016 and none of the windows based laptop makes have come out with anything that approaches the macbook pro. The problem I see is that

>It amazes me that it's 2016 and none of the windows based laptop makes have come out with anything that approaches the macbook pro. The problem I see is that Apple sells a business quality laptop at premium pricing yet people compare them to consumer junk on the Windows side of things. The problem is these models aren't at Best Buy, so a lot consumers don't see them, and if they do they balk at the price because a laptop should be $599, not $1099. You just can't compete with a macbook at $599 or $699. I find the Thinkpad line in general is really nice. HP and Dell also have a business line of lighter/thinner laptops that compare in quality, but cost just as much.