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Nothing in this data leads me to believe Soros does anything more than he states he does. There doesn't seem to be any hidden agenda or any evil master-plan.

by runn1ng 10y ago

piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
The fact the agenda isn't hidden does not make it less evil. I remind you that Soros (through his Open Society Foundations) supports illegal immigration and people smuggling into the EU: http://news.sky.com/story/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrants-10346437 http://news.sky.com/story/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-mi... His organizations and owned media regularly attack every politician or activist who is against uncontrolled immigration, all over the Europe. His goal apparently is to induce religious and racial tensions, destabilize Europe with them and finally break the EU (he already achieves that, see Brexit). And who benefits the most on European countries problems and EU dismantle? Russia.
- tim333 10y ago
  I'd be surprised if inducing religious and racial tensions to destabilize Europe was Soros' goal. Any evidence from non anti-semitic sources? I'm not surprised he'd be pro refugee. He was a refugee himself.
  - piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
    Is Soros himself an anti-semitic source as well? - national borders as the obstacle “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle,” he said in the statement. “Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-30/orban-accuses-soros-of-stoking-refugee-wave-to-weaken-europe http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-30/orban-accu... - at least a million asylum-seekers annually First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09 https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-a... - provide €15,000 per migrant - EU should borrow money to finance that The EU should provide €15,000 ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy. https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09 https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-a... - new EU-wide tax to repay these debts Member states could raise new tax revenue in order to fund what is needed. The answer is that the EU and its member states must find new sources of tax revenue, and do so in a way that spreads the repayment obligation as widely as possible. This could be done by levying special EU-wide taxes. The new tax revenue could come from a variety of sources, including the EU-wide VAT, which already provides revenue to the EU; a special tax on gasoline... http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/09/europe-how-pay-for-refugees/ http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/09/europe-how-pay-for-r...
    - bballer 10y ago
      So basically EU member states must further in debt themselves to private central banks by borrowing what they don't have to pay for the importation of people who come from a polar opposite ideology. With that very ideology partially to blame for the situations which causes the destruction that lead one to become a "refugee" to begin with. They must also on top of borrowing what they don't have (further enriching the bankers), use the force of taxes to take the money from legitimate hardworking citizens to pay for non-citizens to live within their society. And you wonder why Brexit passed...
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    > I'd be surprised if inducing religious and racial tensions to destabilize Europe was Soros' goal. Any evidence from non anti-semitic sources? Well, to be spitefully exact, the government of Israel (jackasses that they are!) seems to believe roughly the same thing, especially given Soros' funding of Palestinian activist organizations. Soros' agenda doesn't have to be card-carryingly evil in order to go against the will of the voters.
- empath75 10y ago
  That someone supports a political agenda you disagree with does not make them nefarious and this kind of rhetoric really spoils the whole political process. There are a lot of humanitarian reasons why someone might support migration to Europe from an active war zone, you know.
  - piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
    > migration to Europe from an active war zone What slowly turns Europe into active war zone itself... It's not about 'political agenda I disagree', it's about actions and their results.
    - empath75 10y ago
      Yeah, and it's totally okay to argue that there's too much uncontrolled migration to Europe. I think there probably is, even though I'm a strong supporter of more open borders in general. That's a big difference from accusing someone who disagrees with you of actively trying to destroy the eu.
  - jkot 10y ago
    How about thousands of people who died at sea? OSF paints EU as paradise on earth, to drive people into sea. If OSF wants more immigrants in EU, they should buy flight tickets, and sponsor visa applications.
- Dolores12 10y ago
  > And who benefits the most on European countries problems and EU dismantle? > Russia. So Soros's agenda is to help Russia? That makes no sense.
- DominikR 10y ago
  While I believe that Soros is a psychopath I feel that you are paranoid about Russia here. (considering that you are likely Polish I can understand that) They have an arrest warrant against Soros, he'll be put into prison should he ever touch Russian soil again and all Soros funded organisations in Russia have been banned and dismantled. All protests by the EU have been ignored. Why I believe that Soros is crazy aside from the contents of this leak: He collaborated with the Nazis to profit over the death of Jews even though he is Jewish himself. And then he later bragged about how much money he made this way without showing any regret for his actions. The leaks also show that he financially supports Palestinian organisations to this day that have the goal to destroy Israel. Our leaders must be crazy themselves because they apparently hold his views on various self destructive policies in highest regards. I really wonder what kind of drugs they were on when they decided that it would be a good idea to import millions of illiterate, young men from an alien culture that hates us. We now have terror attacks here in the EU on a regular basis and the rise in violence and rapes can't be hidden anymore. I guess some men and women just want to see the world burn.
  - clevernickname 10y ago
    >I really wonder what kind of drugs they were on when they decided that it would be a good idea to import millions of illiterate, young men from an alien culture that hates us. We now have terror attacks here in the EU on a regular basis and the rise in violence and rapes can't be hidden anymore. Not only do the elites not see themselves as the same people as us, they fear strong middle classes as a legitimate threat to their power. Mass immigration is just one of many steps towards creating a population that can be ruled by force without accountability.
    - SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
      With the added side affect of a surplus of labour putting downward pressure on wages

Nothing in this data leads me to believe Soros does anything more than he states he does. There doesn't seem to be any hidden agenda or any evil master-plan.

by runn1ng 10y ago

Nothing in this data leads me to believe Soros does anything more than he states he does. There doesn't seem to be any hidden agenda or any evil master-plan.

piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago

The fact the agenda isn't hidden does not make it less evil. I remind you that Soros (through his Open Society Foundations) supports illegal immigration and people smuggling into the EU: http://news.sky.com/story/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrants-10346437 http://news.sky.com/story/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-mi... His organizations and owned media regularly attack every politician or activist who is against uncontrolled immigration, all over the Europe. His goal apparently is to induce religious and racial tensions, destabilize Europe with them and finally break the EU (he already achieves that, see Brexit). And who benefits the most on European countries problems and EU dismantle? Russia.

tim333 10y ago
I'd be surprised if inducing religious and racial tensions to destabilize Europe was Soros' goal. Any evidence from non anti-semitic sources? I'm not surprised he'd be pro refugee. He was a refugee himself.
- piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
  Is Soros himself an anti-semitic source as well? - national borders as the obstacle “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle,” he said in the statement. “Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-30/orban-accuses-soros-of-stoking-refugee-wave-to-weaken-europe http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-30/orban-accu... - at least a million asylum-seekers annually First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09 https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-a... - provide €15,000 per migrant - EU should borrow money to finance that The EU should provide €15,000 ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy. https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09 https://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-a... - new EU-wide tax to repay these debts Member states could raise new tax revenue in order to fund what is needed. The answer is that the EU and its member states must find new sources of tax revenue, and do so in a way that spreads the repayment obligation as widely as possible. This could be done by levying special EU-wide taxes. The new tax revenue could come from a variety of sources, including the EU-wide VAT, which already provides revenue to the EU; a special tax on gasoline... http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/09/europe-how-pay-for-refugees/ http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/09/europe-how-pay-for-r...
  - bballer 10y ago
    So basically EU member states must further in debt themselves to private central banks by borrowing what they don't have to pay for the importation of people who come from a polar opposite ideology. With that very ideology partially to blame for the situations which causes the destruction that lead one to become a "refugee" to begin with. They must also on top of borrowing what they don't have (further enriching the bankers), use the force of taxes to take the money from legitimate hardworking citizens to pay for non-citizens to live within their society. And you wonder why Brexit passed...
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  > I'd be surprised if inducing religious and racial tensions to destabilize Europe was Soros' goal. Any evidence from non anti-semitic sources? Well, to be spitefully exact, the government of Israel (jackasses that they are!) seems to believe roughly the same thing, especially given Soros' funding of Palestinian activist organizations. Soros' agenda doesn't have to be card-carryingly evil in order to go against the will of the voters.
empath75 10y ago
That someone supports a political agenda you disagree with does not make them nefarious and this kind of rhetoric really spoils the whole political process. There are a lot of humanitarian reasons why someone might support migration to Europe from an active war zone, you know.
- piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
  > migration to Europe from an active war zone What slowly turns Europe into active war zone itself... It's not about 'political agenda I disagree', it's about actions and their results.
  - empath75 10y ago
    Yeah, and it's totally okay to argue that there's too much uncontrolled migration to Europe. I think there probably is, even though I'm a strong supporter of more open borders in general. That's a big difference from accusing someone who disagrees with you of actively trying to destroy the eu.
- jkot 10y ago
  How about thousands of people who died at sea? OSF paints EU as paradise on earth, to drive people into sea. If OSF wants more immigrants in EU, they should buy flight tickets, and sponsor visa applications.
Dolores12 10y ago
> And who benefits the most on European countries problems and EU dismantle? > Russia. So Soros's agenda is to help Russia? That makes no sense.
DominikR 10y ago
While I believe that Soros is a psychopath I feel that you are paranoid about Russia here. (considering that you are likely Polish I can understand that) They have an arrest warrant against Soros, he'll be put into prison should he ever touch Russian soil again and all Soros funded organisations in Russia have been banned and dismantled. All protests by the EU have been ignored. Why I believe that Soros is crazy aside from the contents of this leak: He collaborated with the Nazis to profit over the death of Jews even though he is Jewish himself. And then he later bragged about how much money he made this way without showing any regret for his actions. The leaks also show that he financially supports Palestinian organisations to this day that have the goal to destroy Israel. Our leaders must be crazy themselves because they apparently hold his views on various self destructive policies in highest regards. I really wonder what kind of drugs they were on when they decided that it would be a good idea to import millions of illiterate, young men from an alien culture that hates us. We now have terror attacks here in the EU on a regular basis and the rise in violence and rapes can't be hidden anymore. I guess some men and women just want to see the world burn.
- clevernickname 10y ago
  >I really wonder what kind of drugs they were on when they decided that it would be a good idea to import millions of illiterate, young men from an alien culture that hates us. We now have terror attacks here in the EU on a regular basis and the rise in violence and rapes can't be hidden anymore. Not only do the elites not see themselves as the same people as us, they fear strong middle classes as a legitimate threat to their power. Mass immigration is just one of many steps towards creating a population that can be ruled by force without accountability.
  - SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
    With the added side affect of a surplus of labour putting downward pressure on wages