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The question we have now is can it be done by enemies of freedom and still lead to more freedom? There is the logic of polarisation, of fight - both sides use
by zby 10y ago
The question we have now is can it be done by enemies of freedom and still lead to more freedom?
There is the logic of polarisation, of fight - both sides use whatever comes their way to weaken the opposite. Russia wants to weaken the USA, so they expose the political dirt to destabilize, and that works in the short term - but I like to think that in the long term it removes the dirt and makes the free system stronger.
The same thing:
https://stopagitprop.com/2016/08/13/exposing-edward-snowden-the-xxcommittees-john-schindler-offers-the-counterintelligence-perspective/ https://stopagitprop.com/2016/08/13/exposing-edward-snowden-... - it escapes them that sometimes to reform and to make the system better in the long term you need to weaken it in the short term.
Update:
And yet the same thing with the ex-soviet spies (for example https://www.google.pl/search?q=ex-soviet+spy+youtube https://www.google.pl/search?q=ex-soviet+spy+youtube) who defected to the west - all they see is the destabilisation caused by the western activists - they don't see how the whole value of the west is based on the improvements that happen because of the activism.
And this is not to say that there is no danger of destabilisation - it is a dangerous thing - as we have seen in the Near East recently. But we must face the danger with courage - because giving up the freedoms would make the western system the same as the other side. And it is probably not as dangerous as the dictatorship agents thinks it is. The dictatorships have a lot of internal tensions - if the dictator looses grip - it all goes boom - but in a democracy the tensions are released in small portions - by the activism.
- RyanZAG 10y agoIt's never really as simple as just deciding a big percentage of the world's population are 'enemies'. Or that massive shadowy organizations are 'friends' just because they say they are. Our view on the world is extremely small, and by definition of being human - extremely biased.
- tigerBL00D 10y agoI wouldn't paint the world in such stark colors. The only reason you would even consider these people "enemies" is because the respective governments having chosen to be on collision course. Technicalities aside, these "revelations" should serve as a reminder that when it comes to politics (including every version of democracy), there is a shiny veneer of righteousness, and underneath is intricate machinery that serves the sole purpose of controlling and manipulating the population. Both the US and Russia are extremely good at this in their own ways. The Cold War presented plenty of opportunities to refine the craft.
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