> There are vanishingly few situations where we can be 100%, absolutely clear on whether a person did something that warrants permanently removing that person f

> There are vanishingly few situations where we can be 100%, absolutely clear on whether a person did something that warrants permanently removing that person from existence. This is a little strawperson. If you support the death penalty you also know innocent people will die from the death penalty. But you support it because you believe overall less people will be removed from existence. IE it's a deterrent. IE less criminals escape and go on the commit again. IE it costs less so more money goes to save lives in hospitals. [please don't rehash why this are faulty arguments, that's OT to the point I'm making]