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Thanks for the links (I won't likely read the EFF's take, as I am staunchly against the way the EFF writes its articles), but this feels like a rabbit hole. Co
by dimino 10y ago
Thanks for the links (I won't likely read the EFF's take, as I am staunchly against the way the EFF writes its articles), but this feels like a rabbit hole. Cory Doctorow links to an article that links to an article that eventually gets to a World Bank report, claiming that 772k jobs will be lost "Because of the TPP" and that the GDP of developed nations will decrease by .52% for the US and .12% for Japan.
The Tufts analysis, however, is merely a response to another report done by the World Bank claiming, "The model simulations suggest that, by 2030, the TPP will raise member country GDP by 0.4-10 percent, and by 1.1 percent, on a GDP-weighted average basis."
So now you've got the World Bank arguing with economists, Cory Doctorow only linking some of the results of those reports, and this mysterious job loss (where the hell do those jobs go, exactly?) various economists disagreeing with one another...
How the hell do people extract an overarching viewpoint from all this noise? The biggest concern for me is the IP stuff, but I can't tell if this, too, is fearmongering (I go to jail because I cosplayed Darth Vader?? There's simply no way that's how it works, I don't care what the agreement says).
Also the loss of sovereignty seems scary. It'd be terrible of Phillip Morris could sue the US Government for the cigarette labeling, like they did in Uruguay.
- laser 10y agoYeh it's all so complicated... The loss of sovereignty stuff seems sort of like fear-mongering nonsense, though. In the case you cite, just last month Philip Morris lost against Uruguay and was ordered to pay $7 million dollars plus cover Uruguay's legal fees [1]. In a similar case in Australia last December concerning cigarrete packaging, Philip Morris lost. [2] [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pmi-uruguay-lawsuit-idUSKCN0ZO2LZ http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pmi-uruguay-lawsuit-idUSKC... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/dec/18/australia-wins-international-legal-battle-with-philip-morris-over-plain-packaging https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/dec/18/austr...