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I'm sorry but I feel that you are what's wrong with this country. All the human suffering is it worth it as long as it happens to "them".
by guelo 10y ago
I'm sorry but I feel that you are what's wrong with this country. All the human suffering is it worth it as long as it happens to "them".
- Noseshine 10y agoI can't tell you what's wrong with a whole country and I doubt anyone can, nor that such a statement would be useful. I can tell you what's wrong with your comment: A personal attack for no apparent reason, and no actual content - that's wrong with it. I don't see anything controversial about rayiner's point that US voters have often rewarded a "tough on crime" stance with a vote.
- angry_octet 10y agoIt was not well expressed, but it is a valid sentiment. I don't think rayiner's point was as you say, that "tough on crime" is rewarded at the ballot box, but that he thought the approach taken was justified. Many would argue that cruel and inhumane treatment is never justified, and as a long term solution is never effective (as it entrenches poverty and provides continuing motivation for crime).
- rayiner 10y agoYou can understand what causes people to react in a hard situation without considering it justified.
- angry_octet 10y agoApologies, on re-parsing you did not justify it.
- rayiner 10y agoNo, what's wrong with this country is latte liberals who don't understand what causes injustice in the justice system. Like I said, I think the treatment of the accused is deplorable. I don't think we should imprison people for selling Oxy. But I live in a ritzy part of DC where I don't have to deal with gangs trying to recruit my kid every day. It's easy for me to blame private prison lobbyists or red staters or whatever the scapegoat is today. The justice system is the way it is because communities like the Bronx have serious social problems. It's a bad solution to a bad situation.
- cft 10y agoThird world countries have swift third world justice for a reason. Their unruly law disobeying populace would have consumed incredible amount of time and judicial resources otherwise, that these countries cannot afford.
- angry_octet 10y agoI'm sorry but I find this statement completely deluded. Law enforcement in third world countries is often inaccurate, corrupt and ineffectual. Swift justice is actually just pre-determined guilt: the police arrested them because they were guilty. It is more about maintaining power structures.
- cft 10y agoExactly.
- witty_username 10y agoThird world countries don't always have swift justice. For example, in India court cases can often take a long time.
- intended 10y agoWhich at least builds on the belief that courts should work as courts. Not mock trials where guilt is pre-supposed and you end up tossing people you don't like away. The idea of a quick sentence without a fair trial is abhorrent and kryptonite to the functioning an actual robust society,
- lostlogin 10y agoWhen you have an electoral system that basically boils down to choice between two candidates and you get one vote, it's hardly surprising that things end up a mess.