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I am running my own mailserver for several years now and it is quite possible. The problem is, that your IP is new to the other MTAs and you need a couple of mo

by bensbox 10y ago

I am running my own mailserver for several years now and it is quite possible. The problem is, that your IP is new to the other MTAs and you need a couple of months to build up the reputation. Services like the one from Microsoft have forms, where you can delist yourself from their blacklists. Even though you are not blacklisted, it helps for the reputation if you fill out the forms with the MTAs you have problems with. Nevertheless it is a constant work (not much..1 hour per week) to keep up the reputation. Just make sure you are not loosing the IP when it starts to work out ;)

jdmoreira 10y ago
Yes, I think this is a great part of the problem. My IP doesn't have any reputation. But how do I build one? I send a very small volume of emails, I'm just one person.
- techsupporter 10y ago
  Send legitimate e-mails to people you know on those services. Ask them to mark those e-mails as trusted / not spam. Make sure they reply to at least a few. I've been running my own e-mail server for years. I have DKIM, SPF, PTR, and everything else set up and my e-mail domains and IP addresses are many years old. Every so often, Gmail still decides to spam-bin me for a week or so.
- bensbox 10y ago
  It takes some time, but even with small amounts it will eventually work out. I started to send requests for whitelisting my ip to the technical support emails as well and some MTAs even have forms for that. Keep running it! The net was made for decentralised services. I think it will even be in 2020 worth it.
- lucb1e 10y ago
  Same for me, I'm just one person. After a while you've mailed enough hotmail users that hotmail will accept it as non-spam. Google is trickier, they can get away with a lot more because (even when I explain why it happens) people assume I'm doing something wrong when it's google that configured their spamfilter. Eventually though, gmail will typically accept email from home IP addresses. Google apps for business seems to be even trickier than that: they have an opt-in strict setting which blacklists (outright rejects) anything remotely suspicious. It'll tell you where you stand through delivery failures, but it also means you'll end up having to call whomever you're trying to reach.
tantalor 10y ago
If you go on the blacklist by default then it isn't really a "blacklist", is it? It's a whitelist, and you aren't on it.
- jdmoreira 10y ago
  Yes. I'm not on the blacklists but I'm also not on the whitelists. That's the problem. It's ridiculous!

by bensbox 10y ago

jdmoreira 10y ago

Yes, I think this is a great part of the problem. My IP doesn't have any reputation. But how do I build one? I send a very small volume of emails, I'm just one person.

techsupporter 10y ago
Send legitimate e-mails to people you know on those services. Ask them to mark those e-mails as trusted / not spam. Make sure they reply to at least a few. I've been running my own e-mail server for years. I have DKIM, SPF, PTR, and everything else set up and my e-mail domains and IP addresses are many years old. Every so often, Gmail still decides to spam-bin me for a week or so.
bensbox 10y ago
It takes some time, but even with small amounts it will eventually work out. I started to send requests for whitelisting my ip to the technical support emails as well and some MTAs even have forms for that. Keep running it! The net was made for decentralised services. I think it will even be in 2020 worth it.
lucb1e 10y ago
Same for me, I'm just one person. After a while you've mailed enough hotmail users that hotmail will accept it as non-spam. Google is trickier, they can get away with a lot more because (even when I explain why it happens) people assume I'm doing something wrong when it's google that configured their spamfilter. Eventually though, gmail will typically accept email from home IP addresses. Google apps for business seems to be even trickier than that: they have an opt-in strict setting which blacklists (outright rejects) anything remotely suspicious. It'll tell you where you stand through delivery failures, but it also means you'll end up having to call whomever you're trying to reach.

tantalor 10y ago

If you go on the blacklist by default then it isn't really a "blacklist", is it? It's a whitelist, and you aren't on it.

jdmoreira 10y ago
Yes. I'm not on the blacklists but I'm also not on the whitelists. That's the problem. It's ridiculous!