Well said. On the "better things" point: I also weight-train, I've studied Muay Thai, boxing, and a number of other martial arts, and I was an athlete in high

Well said. On the "better things" point: I also weight-train, I've studied Muay Thai, boxing, and a number of other martial arts, and I was an athlete in high school. Judged by those metrics, some Vive games are still pretty decent exercise. They're not "equivalent to heavy sparring" intense, but they're a solid cardio workout. Vive room-scale exercise can be rather more intense than you might think - see https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4wtp3p/vr_fitness_50_day_challenge/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4wtp3p/vr_fitness_50_... - or possibly I'm just bad at the games and substituting energy for technique :) .