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Whoa there! I don't think the poster to which you responded said that marijuana should be criminalized, only that the risks are downplayed significantly by supp

by choko 10y ago

Whoa there! I don't think the poster to which you responded said that marijuana should be criminalized, only that the risks are downplayed significantly by supporters of legalization. As a user myself, I tend to agree. It can be very easy to go overboard if you aren't careful. For many people, weed can completely sap motivation if abused. The exact risks are really unknown though, since research into marijuana has been stifled for decades.

dietrichepp 10y ago
Whoa there yourself! I thought I made it clear that the bit about criminalization was just a "bad joke" (my words). I was just pointing out that if we're going to talk about the dangers of cannabis, we should not be comparing the dangers of cannabis against the dangers of abstaining from cannabis, but we should be comparing those dangers against other risks which we consider completely acceptable, like World of Warcraft. These threads can easily get out of hand when people think that other people are misinterpreting other people, a kind of chain of misinterpretation.
- jacobr 10y ago
  I find it reasonable to warn about the risks of unhealthy usage of both WoW and cannabis, without criminalizing either.
  - mercer 10y ago
    I feel that there should be more nuance and awareness in general about 'addiction'. Most people, and I even catch myself sometimes, associate addiction with severe alcoholism, junkies, gamblers, and so on. As a result, it's really easy to underestimate our own unhealthy dependence on things.
StanislavPetrov 10y ago
Freedom is dangerous. In a free society, the government doesn't regulate the behavior of consenting adults behind closed doors, period (yes, I'm saying we don't live in a free society). In a free society an adult it free to choose to engage in behavior that is stupid, boorish, offensive, counterproductive, and idiotic. If that adult wants to eat 50 Big Macs, smoke marijuana, or snort Draino, it should be absolutely none of the business of the government. This would all be true if there were some way for the government to prevent "frowned upon" behavior without spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to create a massive, heavily armed federalized police force that regularly seizes the money ($3.9 seized in 2014 alone - most without charges filed) and violates the rights of citizens. The fact that all the billions spent, the assets seized, the rights violated, and the lives ruined haven't done anything to reduce this "frowned upon" behavior at all makes the decision to disband the DEA an absolutely no-brainer to anyone with a shred of intelligence and impartiality. Unfortunately we have none of these people in government.

by choko 10y ago

dietrichepp 10y ago

Whoa there yourself! I thought I made it clear that the bit about criminalization was just a "bad joke" (my words). I was just pointing out that if we're going to talk about the dangers of cannabis, we should not be comparing the dangers of cannabis against the dangers of abstaining from cannabis, but we should be comparing those dangers against other risks which we consider completely acceptable, like World of Warcraft. These threads can easily get out of hand when people think that other people are misinterpreting other people, a kind of chain of misinterpretation.

jacobr 10y ago
I find it reasonable to warn about the risks of unhealthy usage of both WoW and cannabis, without criminalizing either.
- mercer 10y ago
  I feel that there should be more nuance and awareness in general about 'addiction'. Most people, and I even catch myself sometimes, associate addiction with severe alcoholism, junkies, gamblers, and so on. As a result, it's really easy to underestimate our own unhealthy dependence on things.

StanislavPetrov 10y ago

Freedom is dangerous. In a free society, the government doesn't regulate the behavior of consenting adults behind closed doors, period (yes, I'm saying we don't live in a free society). In a free society an adult it free to choose to engage in behavior that is stupid, boorish, offensive, counterproductive, and idiotic. If that adult wants to eat 50 Big Macs, smoke marijuana, or snort Draino, it should be absolutely none of the business of the government. This would all be true if there were some way for the government to prevent "frowned upon" behavior without spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to create a massive, heavily armed federalized police force that regularly seizes the money ($3.9 seized in 2014 alone - most without charges filed) and violates the rights of citizens. The fact that all the billions spent, the assets seized, the rights violated, and the lives ruined haven't done anything to reduce this "frowned upon" behavior at all makes the decision to disband the DEA an absolutely no-brainer to anyone with a shred of intelligence and impartiality. Unfortunately we have none of these people in government.