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INSIGHT: Being in a position to observe the behavior of users -- MANY users -- over a period of time, and non-users in the same settings. Most of you probably
by youngButEager 10y ago
INSIGHT: Being in a position to observe the behavior of users -- MANY users -- over a period of time, and non-users in the same settings.
Most of you probably don't have that experience.
- Parents do. Ask parents "how did your kid change after commencing use of pot?"
- Teachers do, if they know a student imbibes. These days teachers have a great chance to see the difference between regular students and those who smoke it.
- Property managers of apartment properties do.
I'm the latter. I made my Silicon Valley startup bucks and have been buying and operating apartment properties since 1993, 2 years out of college.
Here's what I experience:
1) my pot using tenants do not like following rules compared to other tenants.
2) they are defiant in their attitude to varying degrees, challenging things they initially agree to ("no smoking", "new occupants must pass the same tenant screening you did and must be added to the lease", "no guest parking", "no loud parties/noise after 10pm", etc).
RECENT EXPERIENCES
- tenant moves in, it's a no smoking building, they begin smoking pot in their unit EVEN THOUGH there are 'no smoking' signs everywhere and the lease clearly calls for 'no smoking cigars/cigarettes/marijuana'. THAT'S HAPPENED 18 TIMES (18 different tenants) IN THE PAST year and a half.
- tenant moves in, gets a warning for their car blocking other tenants in the parking lot, they kept blowing it off, parking and blocking others. FIVE TIMES over a 2 month period until they were evicted.
- tenant moves in someone without adding them to the lease (a requirement), we catch them, the added person does not pass the normal tenant screening process and they have to leave, the original tenant keeps them there anyway, we catch them, gave them a final warning, they ignored the final warning, and got evicted
Just a very small set of examples.
IF YOU SMOKE, you are the LAST person to know if your pot use has changed you, added some negatives to your behavior. "A doctor who treats himself has a fool for a patient."
I myself imbibed for 3 years as a teen. WHAT AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER. Normal recreation time was clouded by intoxication.
If you prefer being intoxicated in your leisure time, how would you feel telling people that?
"I like being intoxicated. It's my recreational activity."
OR
"I like being intoxicated during my leisure time."
OR
"When I spend free time with recreational pursuits, I like being intoxicated."
VERY FEW pot users will admit that to arbitrary others. Deep inside, we know to ourselves "I shouldn't need intoxication to enjoy myself."
You should not need to live in an altered state, intoxication, and if you are frequently choosing intoxication from pot as 'recreation', something is wrong.
- maxerickson 10y agoYou seem very certain that all users have noticeable behavior changes. How would you correctly count users who do not have noticeable behavior changes?
- superswordfish 10y agoHow exactly do you know which of your tenants are using cannabis? Do you drug test your tenants? > You should not need to live in an altered state, intoxication, and if you are frequently choosing intoxication from pot as 'recreation', something is wrong. Your comment is ironic evidence for insobriety. Anger, stress and frustration are all palpable, and you may need some help to unwind. Hell, I could use a beer after reading it.
- youngButEager 10y agoImagine showing vacant apartments to prospective renters since 1993 -- for 23 years. Lots of units, lots of prospective tenants. In 1993 I had no pool of 'before move-in/after move-in' experience with tenants. 23 years on, I have a large number of 'before move-in/after move-in' tenant experiences. So when a tenancy went bad, over time I started making a mental note of 1) the social cues the tenant made when I first met them 2) what their behavior was after move-in I started seeing patterns. After 23 years of "before move-in/after move-in" experiences, I developed predictors. In my mind, I suspect that Judges, teachers, cops, hiring managers, any profession where you have a lot of "before/after" experience with lots of people -- have developed similar wisdom, similar predictors. It's probably a survival skill humans have -- if you get burned over and over, you start connecting "is there any way I could have used this person's before behavior to protect myself from their after behavior?" Here are some of the screening-out cues I use: 1) during the initial showing of the unit and meeting, does the person forget something I just told them ("It's a one year lease")? Did they exhibit more than one memory lapse like that? 2) was the person inarticulate in writing (on the application), or in their speech? 3) on the continuum of demeanor (behavior and body language) from "street people behavior" to "my professional peers" -- was the prospective tenant closer to "street person" demeanor or closer to "professional peer"? 4) does the person smoke cigarettes? Over 23 years most of my pot-smoking tenants smoked cigarettes. It makes sense I guess, smoking cigarettes for nicotine, smoking pot for thc. The list of 'cues' I have is not perfect; people are still moving in and smoking pot inside my properties in violation of the lease.