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> It's pretty easy to lose 40-50 pounds and end up being much less healthier than you were before Maybe if you amputate your legs or catch AIDS or syphilis in

by khattam 10y ago

> It's pretty easy to lose 40-50 pounds and end up being much less healthier than you were before Maybe if you amputate your legs or catch AIDS or syphilis in the process. Otherwise, I can't see how losing 50 pounds will leave you less healthier than before.

GirlsCanCode 10y ago
Fat people are always trying to justify their dangerous lifestyles. Sadly, they get a lot of sympathy here. You, of course, are correct. It is always bad to be overweight.
jokamoto 10y ago
Two possible ways: Being underweight is dangerous, just as being overweight is dangerous. Instead of heart disease and joint damage, you end up with osteoporosis, anemia, etc. Losing weight without paying attention to nutrient intake and balance can have similar effects, even if you'd be at or above healthy weight losing 50lbs.
- Tharkun 10y ago
  Erhm, yeah, good luck losing that amount of weight easily and ending up underweight...
  - chrisdbaldwin 10y ago
    Stop eating carbs and see what happens. It's surprisingly easy to end up underweight when sugar isn't present.
ghshephard 10y ago
What I was trying to say, perhaps poorly, that is if you were heavy because you were working out a lot, and eating a lot, and then decided to lose weight by reducing the eating/working out, you can end up being skinny/fat/weak. At the very least, doing regular body-weight resistance training (pushups, situps, pullups, air-squats), helps to reduce the amount of muscle you are losing while you are losing weight.
- eggy 10y ago
  And you can lose weight but look bigger if your muscle to fat ratio goes down. Fat is less dense, it takes up more volume per equal masses of muscle or fat. It should never be about weight loss, but muscle to fat ratio, as I wrote about in the thread above. You will be healthier when you lower your fat percentage and boost your muscle mass. Weight does not differentiate between between fat or muscle.
- khattam 10y ago
  >doing regular body-weight resistance training (pushups, situps, pullups, air-squats), helps to reduce the amount of muscle you are losing while you are losing weight Can you explain why archaeologists, astronomers and professors have the highest life expectancy and athletes and body builders have that among the lowest?
  - bkovacev 10y ago
    Sure, because excess muscle causes excess work from your body in order to keep it. However, bear in mind that for some that is a profession and not a matter of choice.
  - great_kraken 10y ago
    Do you have a link to data saying that is the case? I've always figured that would be the case, but I have never seen a study/meta-study about it. A quick Google didn't yield much either.
  - ark15 10y ago
    >Can you explain why archaeologists, astronomers and professors have the highest life expectancy and athletes and body builders have that among the lowest? That's a pretty serious statement hidden as a question. Can you point to your source(s) claiming this to be true? I am sure a huge % of HN population would be interested in this. For those interested, I found parent's claim very intriguing so I spent a few minutes Googling and the best I came close to answering yes/no was this - The life-prolonging benefits of a scrupulous life have come to light from a comparison of 20 previous studies which together rated 8900 people for conscientiousness using a standard psychological survey, and also recorded the age they died. Howard Friedman and Margaret Kern at the University of California at Riverside found that people who were less conscientious were 50 per cent more likely to die at any given age, on average, than those of the same age who scored highly (Health Psychology, DOI: 10.1037/0278-6133.27.5.505). This exceeds the effects of socioeconomic status and intelligence, which are also known to increase longevity. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026794-800-conscientiousness-is-the-secret-to-a-long-life/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026794-800-conscien... Do elite athletes live longer? TLDR; - In most cases, not really http://www.athletesheart.org/2013/11/do-elite-athletes-live-longer/ http://www.athletesheart.org/2013/11/do-elite-athletes-live-... https://www.quora.com/Which-professions-have-the-longest-life-expectancy-Which-ones-have-the-shortest https://www.quora.com/Which-professions-have-the-longest-lif...
rdl 10y ago
Meth. I suspect being 50 pounds overweight is preferable to smoking meth daily for a few months to the exclusion of all else, even if that would lead to pretty rapid weight loss.
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by khattam 10y ago

GirlsCanCode 10y ago

Fat people are always trying to justify their dangerous lifestyles. Sadly, they get a lot of sympathy here. You, of course, are correct. It is always bad to be overweight.

jokamoto 10y ago

Two possible ways: Being underweight is dangerous, just as being overweight is dangerous. Instead of heart disease and joint damage, you end up with osteoporosis, anemia, etc. Losing weight without paying attention to nutrient intake and balance can have similar effects, even if you'd be at or above healthy weight losing 50lbs.

Tharkun 10y ago
Erhm, yeah, good luck losing that amount of weight easily and ending up underweight...
- chrisdbaldwin 10y ago
  Stop eating carbs and see what happens. It's surprisingly easy to end up underweight when sugar isn't present.

ghshephard 10y ago

What I was trying to say, perhaps poorly, that is if you were heavy because you were working out a lot, and eating a lot, and then decided to lose weight by reducing the eating/working out, you can end up being skinny/fat/weak. At the very least, doing regular body-weight resistance training (pushups, situps, pullups, air-squats), helps to reduce the amount of muscle you are losing while you are losing weight.

eggy 10y ago
And you can lose weight but look bigger if your muscle to fat ratio goes down. Fat is less dense, it takes up more volume per equal masses of muscle or fat. It should never be about weight loss, but muscle to fat ratio, as I wrote about in the thread above. You will be healthier when you lower your fat percentage and boost your muscle mass. Weight does not differentiate between between fat or muscle.
khattam 10y ago
>doing regular body-weight resistance training (pushups, situps, pullups, air-squats), helps to reduce the amount of muscle you are losing while you are losing weight Can you explain why archaeologists, astronomers and professors have the highest life expectancy and athletes and body builders have that among the lowest?
- bkovacev 10y ago
  Sure, because excess muscle causes excess work from your body in order to keep it. However, bear in mind that for some that is a profession and not a matter of choice.
- great_kraken 10y ago
  Do you have a link to data saying that is the case? I've always figured that would be the case, but I have never seen a study/meta-study about it. A quick Google didn't yield much either.
- ark15 10y ago
  >Can you explain why archaeologists, astronomers and professors have the highest life expectancy and athletes and body builders have that among the lowest? That's a pretty serious statement hidden as a question. Can you point to your source(s) claiming this to be true? I am sure a huge % of HN population would be interested in this. For those interested, I found parent's claim very intriguing so I spent a few minutes Googling and the best I came close to answering yes/no was this - The life-prolonging benefits of a scrupulous life have come to light from a comparison of 20 previous studies which together rated 8900 people for conscientiousness using a standard psychological survey, and also recorded the age they died. Howard Friedman and Margaret Kern at the University of California at Riverside found that people who were less conscientious were 50 per cent more likely to die at any given age, on average, than those of the same age who scored highly (Health Psychology, DOI: 10.1037/0278-6133.27.5.505). This exceeds the effects of socioeconomic status and intelligence, which are also known to increase longevity. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026794-800-conscientiousness-is-the-secret-to-a-long-life/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026794-800-conscien... Do elite athletes live longer? TLDR; - In most cases, not really http://www.athletesheart.org/2013/11/do-elite-athletes-live-longer/ http://www.athletesheart.org/2013/11/do-elite-athletes-live-... https://www.quora.com/Which-professions-have-the-longest-life-expectancy-Which-ones-have-the-shortest https://www.quora.com/Which-professions-have-the-longest-lif...

rdl 10y ago

Meth. I suspect being 50 pounds overweight is preferable to smoking meth daily for a few months to the exclusion of all else, even if that would lead to pretty rapid weight loss.

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