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And start treating nicotine like heroin.

crazydude202 10y ago
I believe cigarettes and other tobacco products should be unlawful. If one wants to grow and dry their own tobacco to smoke, I am okay with that. But, productizing addiction of known deleterious substances should be illegal.
- dageshi 10y ago
  I would not conflate "all tobacco products" with cigarettes. I smoke cigars, you don't inhale cigars, they're not designed to be inhaled and in my experience and the experience of the people who I know who also smoke them, they are not addictive to the majority who smoke them. I am not disputing that cigarettes are indeed addictive, overwhelming evidence suggests that they are, but cigars in my experience are not and I would guess pipe smokers would also fall into the same category.
- eli 10y ago
  That wasn't super successful when attempted with alcohol.
- icebraining 10y ago
  But, productizing addiction of known deleterious substances should be illegal. Are you really willing to give up on sugar?
  - zeroer 10y ago
    In all honesty, I would if it meant not having to smell cigarette smokers' smoke in public places. And the obscene amount of refined sugar in our diets isn't doing us any favors. A couple months sugar-free and everyone's palate would adapt.
nicotinetemp 10y ago
In my experience, nicotine is no more addictive than caffeine. I vaped large doses of nicotine daily for over a year then quit because I was bored of it. It's been well over a year since I last used any. Whole tobacco is supposedly much more addictive. Tobacco contains monoamine oxidase inhibitors which in animal models increase the addictive effects of nicotine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177026 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177026 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14592678 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14592678 Many other users of pure nicotine report it as not strongly addictive. Conflating nicotine with whole tobacco could cause harm by encouraging tobacco use in people unaware of this difference.
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  I think some people are more prone to nicotine addiction than others. I smoked moderately for about six months, while dating a smoker. Once we stopped dating, I dropped the habit completely. If I'm drunk and everyone around me is smoking, and someone offers me a cigarette, I'll take it and take some half-hearted puffs, and typically toss it half-smoked.
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  - vidarh 10y ago
    Smoking appears to be more addictive than nicotine by itself. Pure nicotine in low enough doses has a fairly low addiction potential, and is mostly benign. But smoke, and you get the whole combination of other cigarette content, social pressure and ritual.

I believe cigarettes and other tobacco products should be unlawful. If one wants to grow and dry their own tobacco to smoke, I am okay with that. But, productizing addiction of known deleterious substances should be illegal.

dageshi 10y ago
I would not conflate "all tobacco products" with cigarettes. I smoke cigars, you don't inhale cigars, they're not designed to be inhaled and in my experience and the experience of the people who I know who also smoke them, they are not addictive to the majority who smoke them. I am not disputing that cigarettes are indeed addictive, overwhelming evidence suggests that they are, but cigars in my experience are not and I would guess pipe smokers would also fall into the same category.
eli 10y ago
That wasn't super successful when attempted with alcohol.
icebraining 10y ago
But, productizing addiction of known deleterious substances should be illegal. Are you really willing to give up on sugar?
- zeroer 10y ago
  In all honesty, I would if it meant not having to smell cigarette smokers' smoke in public places. And the obscene amount of refined sugar in our diets isn't doing us any favors. A couple months sugar-free and everyone's palate would adapt.

nicotinetemp 10y ago

In my experience, nicotine is no more addictive than caffeine. I vaped large doses of nicotine daily for over a year then quit because I was bored of it. It's been well over a year since I last used any. Whole tobacco is supposedly much more addictive. Tobacco contains monoamine oxidase inhibitors which in animal models increase the addictive effects of nicotine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177026 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177026 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14592678 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14592678 Many other users of pure nicotine report it as not strongly addictive. Conflating nicotine with whole tobacco could cause harm by encouraging tobacco use in people unaware of this difference.

pavel_lishin 10y ago
I think some people are more prone to nicotine addiction than others. I smoked moderately for about six months, while dating a smoker. Once we stopped dating, I dropped the habit completely. If I'm drunk and everyone around me is smoking, and someone offers me a cigarette, I'll take it and take some half-hearted puffs, and typically toss it half-smoked.
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- vidarh 10y ago
  Smoking appears to be more addictive than nicotine by itself. Pure nicotine in low enough doses has a fairly low addiction potential, and is mostly benign. But smoke, and you get the whole combination of other cigarette content, social pressure and ritual.