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If you really believe H1B holders are paid at least the prevailing rates and are hired only because of genuine shortages, then I got beach-front property in Ari

If you really believe H1B holders are paid at least the prevailing rates and are hired only because of genuine shortages, then I got beach-front property in Arizona for sale. Common sense says if someone cannot freely move between jobs, who faces immanent deportation if fired, who will have much better prospects of living well in US than their home country, then this person has much less leverage and would be paid less. It is easy to test this hypothesis: do H1B holders have a much higher rate of changing jobs after obtaining visa than their peers.

atemerev 10y ago
Do you know the process of hiring for H1B? You have to _prove_ you can't hire a local, AND that the salary you are offering is fair. Yes, most of H1B jobs are menial and boring, and employees don't hold much leverage, but they are "underpaid" because of the nature of most such jobs (supporting ageing JEE / mainframe systems with lots of legacy code no one else want to look into), but it isn't that there a lot of competition for these kind of jobs, worth of TheDailyWTF front page. I started my career in software engineering with something like this: supporting a ton of spaghetti code coming from a large investment bank. If I had chosen a H1B route back then, of course I'd change this job immediately after getting a green card. But somebody had to do it, right?
- brianwawok 10y ago
  It's a scam. Meet some h1bs. I have that did my same job. They made 20-50% less than maket rate.
  - atemerev 10y ago
    I was on receiving end (cancelled my application, though). 135k looked like quite normal salary for me (Boston).
- gozur88 10y ago
  >Do you know the process of hiring for H1B? You have to _prove_ you can't hire a local, AND that the salary you are offering is fair. Come on now. You can't actually believe this is how it works in real life. http://www.cringely.com/2013/07/18/so-thats-how-h-1b-visa-fraud-is-done/ http://www.cringely.com/2013/07/18/so-thats-how-h-1b-visa-fr...

atemerev 10y ago

Do you know the process of hiring for H1B? You have to _prove_ you can't hire a local, AND that the salary you are offering is fair. Yes, most of H1B jobs are menial and boring, and employees don't hold much leverage, but they are "underpaid" because of the nature of most such jobs (supporting ageing JEE / mainframe systems with lots of legacy code no one else want to look into), but it isn't that there a lot of competition for these kind of jobs, worth of TheDailyWTF front page. I started my career in software engineering with something like this: supporting a ton of spaghetti code coming from a large investment bank. If I had chosen a H1B route back then, of course I'd change this job immediately after getting a green card. But somebody had to do it, right?

brianwawok 10y ago
It's a scam. Meet some h1bs. I have that did my same job. They made 20-50% less than maket rate.
- atemerev 10y ago
  I was on receiving end (cancelled my application, though). 135k looked like quite normal salary for me (Boston).
gozur88 10y ago
>Do you know the process of hiring for H1B? You have to _prove_ you can't hire a local, AND that the salary you are offering is fair. Come on now. You can't actually believe this is how it works in real life. http://www.cringely.com/2013/07/18/so-thats-how-h-1b-visa-fraud-is-done/ http://www.cringely.com/2013/07/18/so-thats-how-h-1b-visa-fr...