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really thought provoking material here

adamnemecek 10y ago
say what you will about memes but i think that the fact that people are making memes hints at the fact that they are trying to fill some sort of creative void. yes, they are stupid but it's a step up from the previous state which was no creative expression at all.
- geofft 10y ago
  > the previous state which was no creative expression at all. The previous state of what? When was this?
  - adamnemecek 10y ago
    Pre-memes.
    - geofft 10y ago
      There was no creative expression before memes were invented? (To be clear, my position is that you are selling memes short. "They are stupid" misses the entire point of what's valuable about them, and more importantly, which ones are valuable.)
      - adamnemecek 10y ago
        On average, they are somewhat stupid.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    Science fact: creative expression was invented in 2009.
- k-mcgrady 10y ago
  The previous state was using text to get a thought across. That's not creative?
  - adamnemecek 10y ago
    Many more people express themselves publicly through memes than through text.
    - Scown 10y ago
      (citation needed)
- skylan_q 10y ago
  fill some sort of creative void memes are the only culture we're producing right now
  - adamnemecek 10y ago
    It's the only culture people are __in mass__ producing right now.
    - noobermin 10y ago
      I think he is being sarcastic.
      - skylan_q 10y ago
        no, i'm actually being genuine. i can only watch pulp fiction so many times before i realize the same movie is being made over and over again
        grenoire 10y ago
        no, i'm actually being genuine. i can only look at image macros so many times before i realize the same image macro is being made over and over again
        skylan_q 10y ago
        there's much more to memes than image macros that's like saying "seen one painting, seen them all!"
  - fbonetti 10y ago
    > memes are the only culture we're producing right now We live in an age where you can access any genre of music, any artwork, any TV shows and any movies from any culture on planet Earth with the click of button. We live in an age where people with obscure artistic talents can find online communities and actually make a living. People who are hobbyists can create high quality podcasts and youtube videos and have a global audience of millions, without any need for a middle man. If you truly believe that memes are the only form of culture being produced right now, you live under a rock.
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skylan_q 10y ago
it is. for me, memes were part of rehabilitating political views I might have never considered as legitimate otherwise
MichaelGG 10y ago
It really did make me think. Are they planning on rigorously testing different types of content to uncover bias? I'm not sure that publishing the intent beforehand is good, but OTOH Facebook probably isn't paying close attention. It'd be interesting to see other types of posts be tried across different pages to reveal bias. But it has to be properly done, so FB can't deny it later.

say what you will about memes but i think that the fact that people are making memes hints at the fact that they are trying to fill some sort of creative void. yes, they are stupid but it's a step up from the previous state which was no creative expression at all.

geofft 10y ago
> the previous state which was no creative expression at all. The previous state of what? When was this?
- adamnemecek 10y ago
  Pre-memes.
  - geofft 10y ago
    There was no creative expression before memes were invented? (To be clear, my position is that you are selling memes short. "They are stupid" misses the entire point of what's valuable about them, and more importantly, which ones are valuable.)
    - adamnemecek 10y ago
      On average, they are somewhat stupid.
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Science fact: creative expression was invented in 2009.
k-mcgrady 10y ago
The previous state was using text to get a thought across. That's not creative?
- adamnemecek 10y ago
  Many more people express themselves publicly through memes than through text.
  - Scown 10y ago
    (citation needed)
skylan_q 10y ago
fill some sort of creative void memes are the only culture we're producing right now
- adamnemecek 10y ago
  It's the only culture people are __in mass__ producing right now.
  - noobermin 10y ago
    I think he is being sarcastic.
    - skylan_q 10y ago
      no, i'm actually being genuine. i can only watch pulp fiction so many times before i realize the same movie is being made over and over again
      - grenoire 10y ago
        no, i'm actually being genuine. i can only look at image macros so many times before i realize the same image macro is being made over and over again
        skylan_q 10y ago
        there's much more to memes than image macros that's like saying "seen one painting, seen them all!"
- fbonetti 10y ago
  > memes are the only culture we're producing right now We live in an age where you can access any genre of music, any artwork, any TV shows and any movies from any culture on planet Earth with the click of button. We live in an age where people with obscure artistic talents can find online communities and actually make a living. People who are hobbyists can create high quality podcasts and youtube videos and have a global audience of millions, without any need for a middle man. If you truly believe that memes are the only form of culture being produced right now, you live under a rock.

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skylan_q 10y ago

it is. for me, memes were part of rehabilitating political views I might have never considered as legitimate otherwise

MichaelGG 10y ago

It really did make me think. Are they planning on rigorously testing different types of content to uncover bias? I'm not sure that publishing the intent beforehand is good, but OTOH Facebook probably isn't paying close attention. It'd be interesting to see other types of posts be tried across different pages to reveal bias. But it has to be properly done, so FB can't deny it later.