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> who sees Jesus story as an alien visit record Could you elaborate on this? I've never heard or read anybody say anything like this before.

• trhway 10y ago
  >I've never heard or read anybody say anything like this before. that would be strange. A lot of science fiction contains a notion of an alien(s) perceived as a God(s) by native people of the planet being visited. In case of Jesus we have all the typical stuff - medical nanobots and food replicators, alien species in the "skies" who conquered space and time, and we have pretty clear message (well, we have millions of pages of philosophy written about it, so it is my brief short take on it) - take control over and minimize your violence and develop empathy, and that would speed up (or remove the main obstacles to) the development of your civilization to be able to join the others. Tightly managed, if not abolished, violence and high communication capabilities (direct mind to mind like) are what we think as among the characteristics of developed civilizations. May be it is not the result, may be it is the tool to get there? Anyway, such attempts to help the development of native civilizations is known to be futile (again, well explored in science fiction) and Jesus obviously was an inexperienced eager to help and frustrated by what he observed observer who went rogue. And thus we have the "Cup of Wrath", the communication with the Mission Command when the Command orders that to minimize consequences of the perpetrated Prime Directive violation the "god scenario" would proceed to completion (which probably didn't include real or full death, yet it was obviously something that one would be happy to avoid - may be something like real death with upload moments before, again going along science fiction lines one can interpret that way the communication with "God" during the crucifixion as well as obvious initial weakness/discomfort with the the new body ("don't touch") when Jesus met Mary after the resurrection (also the 2 angels [dressed] in white busy with some chores right there in the cave after Jesus was resurrected) while some time later he gets used to the body and lets Tomas to inspect it). There is a lot in the story that can be clearly interpreted in the science fiction style, and between God and aliens i bet on aliens :) Now, here is the really fun part - an idea that we probably do have sample of the Jesus' alien DNA somewhere around (despite the aliens' precautions taken like the hard ultra-violet cleaning of all the biological material in the cave tomb of Jesus) - the "Holy Grail" whatever it is, like say the Dan Brown's child/ancestors of Jesus. Would you like to sequence that DNA? And according to the legends the medical nanobots were still on/with the Holy Grail and still functioning.
  • balls187 10y ago
    So, is Heaven real?
    • deckar01 10y ago
      I think, in this scenario, Heaven and Hell are psychological tools invented by an alien race to condition society for colonization. So, hypothetically speaking, no.
      • kijin 10y ago
        Or rather, Heaven is an actual exoplanet where aliens live in peace and prosperity, somewhat like Asgard in the Marvel universe.
    • trhway 10y ago
      Yes, otherwise why would we have 700 episodes of Star Trek depicting it.
• cmurf 10y ago
  Most alien stories have all the hallmarks of theism: the whole appeal to superior intelligence/technology, that they are interested in human kind, they intervene in human affairs per an undefined (to us) metric, non-believers are just ignoring the revealed truth/facts i.e. it's their fault, not the fault of weak or non-existence facts, and so on. If aliens are visiting earth then it seems to me they're like E.T. (the movie): botanists who could give two shits about humans other than not getting caught. Or entomologists, geologist, what have you. There's a lot more interesting stuff happening on the planet than humans. But humans are full of self-importance and gods and aliens play a role in reemphasizing that self-importance.