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What I want to know is the timeframe of supporting PostgreSQL 9.5 and/or 9.6. (Though 9.6 is still in beta.) Also, my understanding is that they're feeding pat

What I want to know is the timeframe of supporting PostgreSQL 9.5 and/or 9.6. (Though 9.6 is still in beta.) Also, my understanding is that they're feeding patches back to postgres, and want it to eventually run on stock postgres. But it's not clear to me how progress on that is going. I was also surprised that UDR was removed, I didn't even realize it was deprecated. I'm not actually using the product at all right now, but I've been watching on the website, because I want to use it eventually. I'm kind of hoping it works with stock postgres before I jump in. But if not that, I think I at least want to wait for 9.6 support.

jlgaddis 10y ago
If memory serves, they're planning on it being "in core" on 10.0.
- rattray 10y ago
  Would be amazing if anyone could come up with a citation for this.
martinmarques 10y ago
UDR has been deprecated in favor of pglogical, which is based on better code already available on PostgreSQL (and production ready... actually we are using it with customers on production systems). There will not be any BDR release for 9.5. That has been commented may many times on the pgsql-general list. There will most likely be a 9.6 version, but it won't run on stock postgres (you'll still need to have a patched version of postgres). If the rest of the features BDR relies on get in for the PG 10 release, then there will be only a BDR extension which you'd have to install (no patching postgres)
- bonesmoses 10y ago
  That may be the case, but they need to update the documentation to reflect that. This is what it currently says: "Note: All the new features required have been submitted for inclusion in PostgreSQL 9.5. Many have already been accepted and included. If all the functionality BDR requires is added to PostgreSQL 9.5 then the need for a modified PostgreSQL will go away in the next version." Well, PostgreSQL 9.5 has been out for several months now, and there's no note at all for 9.6. For a 1.0 announcement, that's a pretty strange omission. So we get something that only really works with a patched version of 9.4 when 9.6 is going to be released soon, and talks about 9.5 like it isn't out yet? No thanks.
- looneysquash 10y ago
  I'm not on pgsql-general. Or any of the postgres lists besides announce. So, I'm not sure who's fault it is, but I'm listening in one place (your website mainly), and you're talking in another place (pgsql-general apparently), and so we're not communicating effectively. Actually, at least as recently as June, when I emailed you guys directly you didn't say that. Instead I got linked to a blog post from Dec 2015 that didn't answer my question, and then a "Not yet" when I replied to ask my question again.

jlgaddis 10y ago

If memory serves, they're planning on it being "in core" on 10.0.

rattray 10y ago
Would be amazing if anyone could come up with a citation for this.

martinmarques 10y ago

UDR has been deprecated in favor of pglogical, which is based on better code already available on PostgreSQL (and production ready... actually we are using it with customers on production systems). There will not be any BDR release for 9.5. That has been commented may many times on the pgsql-general list. There will most likely be a 9.6 version, but it won't run on stock postgres (you'll still need to have a patched version of postgres). If the rest of the features BDR relies on get in for the PG 10 release, then there will be only a BDR extension which you'd have to install (no patching postgres)

bonesmoses 10y ago
That may be the case, but they need to update the documentation to reflect that. This is what it currently says: "Note: All the new features required have been submitted for inclusion in PostgreSQL 9.5. Many have already been accepted and included. If all the functionality BDR requires is added to PostgreSQL 9.5 then the need for a modified PostgreSQL will go away in the next version." Well, PostgreSQL 9.5 has been out for several months now, and there's no note at all for 9.6. For a 1.0 announcement, that's a pretty strange omission. So we get something that only really works with a patched version of 9.4 when 9.6 is going to be released soon, and talks about 9.5 like it isn't out yet? No thanks.
looneysquash 10y ago
I'm not on pgsql-general. Or any of the postgres lists besides announce. So, I'm not sure who's fault it is, but I'm listening in one place (your website mainly), and you're talking in another place (pgsql-general apparently), and so we're not communicating effectively. Actually, at least as recently as June, when I emailed you guys directly you didn't say that. Instead I got linked to a blog post from Dec 2015 that didn't answer my question, and then a "Not yet" when I replied to ask my question again.