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Please don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. It is a matter of motivation, you need people who are motivated to do a job and skilled enough to do it. YOU br
by auggierose 10y ago
Please don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. It is a matter of motivation, you need people who are motivated to do a job and skilled enough to do it. YOU brought up the public school teacher as an example, and I like it. A child carer needs to be compensated with money, just as any other professional or teacher, because money means choice and power. A child carer should not be forced into a salary race to the bottom, and it is ridiculous to assume that a child carer would want to work just for food and a roof over his/her head. This is NOT a deal any responsible adult in my opinion should take, and somebody who takes that deal is per se disqualified to take care of my children.
- yummyfajitas 10y agoI didn't put words in your mouth. I explicitly said that was just the only thing I could come up with to fill in the blanks, and I explicitly asked for you to clarify. So again, here's the concrete question. It's a positive question about the world, not a normative question about what you think should happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_statement#Positive_statements_and_normative_statements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_statement#Positive_st... Suppose we implement my scheme and people who can't find a job wind up caring for children in return for in-kind benefits. What objectively bad things will happen to the children as a result and why will those things happen? What I'm trying to disambiguate here is moral/aesthetic preferences ("should not be forced into a salary race to the bottom" because I don't like it) and positive claims about the world ("a basic job will cause children to die of aids after former welfare recipients stab them with dirty needles").
- dragonwriter 10y agoA "positive question" about "objectively bad" is a oxymoron. "Bad" is inherently subjective and, always a normative rather than positive issue.
- yummyfajitas 10y agoTrue. A better way to phrase it would have been "are there any objectively measurable things that happen to the children which are widely perceived to be bad?"