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Does anyone have a list of modern alternative (experimental even) protocols out there?

by nemo44x 10y ago

lindner 10y ago
The recent Decentralized Web Summit touched on a number of alternates: http://www.decentralizedweb.net/ http://www.decentralizedweb.net/ Interplanetary File System (IPFS) was discussed quite a bit. NameCoin was the most popular DNS replacement. ZeroNet was a really interesting project that does all of the above. http://ipfs.io/ http://ipfs.io/ http://namecoin.info/ http://namecoin.info/ http://zeronet.io/ http://zeronet.io/
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  I also collect old models, centralized or not, in case they're useful in modern situations (esp intranet) for reliability or security especially. What do you think of Tannenbaum et al's Globe model as WWW alternative? https://cds.cern.ch/record/400321/files/p117.pdf https://cds.cern.ch/record/400321/files/p117.pdf I thought it was an interesting design that provided nice way of reducing abstraction gaps and rework in the various layers/techs. They integrated it with their Amoeba OS that ran on cluster of workstations w/ single, system image.
  - lindner 10y ago
    Wasn't familiar with this so I skimmed the IEEE paper: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=749137 http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=7... Interesting that it references the Legion OS work that Greg Lindahl spoke about at the Summit: http://legion.virginia.edu/ http://legion.virginia.edu/ At first glance Globe feels like a low-level solution for the problem. Mapping objects to binaries via a broker and all that. The web we have today solved much of the issues in other ways. Anycast DNS and CDNs allow for content distribution. Storing state in cookies allows for Operational transform and other eventually consistent techniques. Thanks for the reference and connecting a few dots!
jandrese 10y ago
The article mentions Hyper-G, which appears to be more of an evolution of the WWW than a completely different protocol. On the surface it looks a little overcomplicated to me, for not a whole lot of benefit now that Google exists. https://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/doc/hyper-g-abs.html https://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/doc/hyper-g-abs.h...
- lindner 10y ago
  We liked Hyper-G because it had a bi-directional link model and the Harmony browser was able to render VRML. Maybe 2016 will be the year VR takes off (again)
AsyncAwait 10y ago
MaidSafe is an alternative protocol as well as an application platform focusing on strong security and privacy, http://maidsafe.net http://maidsafe.net

Does anyone have a list of modern alternative (experimental even) protocols out there?

by nemo44x 10y ago

Does anyone have a list of modern alternative (experimental even) protocols out there?

The recent Decentralized Web Summit touched on a number of alternates: http://www.decentralizedweb.net/ http://www.decentralizedweb.net/ Interplanetary File System (IPFS) was discussed quite a bit. NameCoin was the most popular DNS replacement. ZeroNet was a really interesting project that does all of the above. http://ipfs.io/ http://ipfs.io/ http://namecoin.info/ http://namecoin.info/ http://zeronet.io/ http://zeronet.io/

nickpsecurity 10y ago
I also collect old models, centralized or not, in case they're useful in modern situations (esp intranet) for reliability or security especially. What do you think of Tannenbaum et al's Globe model as WWW alternative? https://cds.cern.ch/record/400321/files/p117.pdf https://cds.cern.ch/record/400321/files/p117.pdf I thought it was an interesting design that provided nice way of reducing abstraction gaps and rework in the various layers/techs. They integrated it with their Amoeba OS that ran on cluster of workstations w/ single, system image.
- lindner 10y ago
  Wasn't familiar with this so I skimmed the IEEE paper: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=749137 http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=7... Interesting that it references the Legion OS work that Greg Lindahl spoke about at the Summit: http://legion.virginia.edu/ http://legion.virginia.edu/ At first glance Globe feels like a low-level solution for the problem. Mapping objects to binaries via a broker and all that. The web we have today solved much of the issues in other ways. Anycast DNS and CDNs allow for content distribution. Storing state in cookies allows for Operational transform and other eventually consistent techniques. Thanks for the reference and connecting a few dots!

jandrese 10y ago

The article mentions Hyper-G, which appears to be more of an evolution of the WWW than a completely different protocol. On the surface it looks a little overcomplicated to me, for not a whole lot of benefit now that Google exists. https://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/doc/hyper-g-abs.html https://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/doc/hyper-g-abs.h...

lindner 10y ago
We liked Hyper-G because it had a bi-directional link model and the Harmony browser was able to render VRML. Maybe 2016 will be the year VR takes off (again)

AsyncAwait 10y ago

MaidSafe is an alternative protocol as well as an application platform focusing on strong security and privacy, http://maidsafe.net http://maidsafe.net