Sorry, the formatting was off. It's fixed now. >Yes and society benefits from having rich people with capital invest in companies that produce things we want.

Sorry, the formatting was off. It's fixed now. >Yes and society benefits from having rich people with capital invest in companies that produce things we want. It's not a fixed pie. That's my entire point. It isn't a fixed pie. The whole concept that a person "owns" part of the pie is dubious, because they relied on everyone else to get that part of the pie. >you simply cannot speak for "society" I'm not speaking for society. Society is speaking for society by voting. >whenever we as a species tried to organize everything to our personal standards it has failed miserably. What are you referring to? Because I see: -public services -public education -firefighters -single payer healthcare -law & order -criminal justice -Software standards (you're talking to me over a "personal standard" called TCP/IP)