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How then can others be warned about abusive - and in the case of amazon they were abusive[1]- past employers? [1] FWIW, I've had some bad jobs, usually because

How then can others be warned about abusive - and in the case of amazon they were abusive[1]- past employers? [1] FWIW, I've had some bad jobs, usually because they were startups where people didn't know what they were doing. Well meaning people in over their heads can be tough but fun and the furthest things from abusive. Amazon was organized to abuse employees as a consequence of protecting management egos.

Noseshine 10y ago
> How then can others be warned about abusive Did you already forget that bluelu - the parent commenter - talked about a job interview here? You feel you need to warn your new employer to not apply for a job at your previous one? Nobody prevents you from doing everything else. But this is a job interview, and how you behave here shows how you will behave in the future. You think it's a good idea to show your new employer that you will shit-talk them next time?
- 20yrs_no_equity 10y ago
  There's a big difference between "shit-talk" and honesty.
  - Noseshine 10y ago
    Please read what I wrote above about "truth". You don't tell people your marriage problems because "truth". You just don't go around telling people about your private problems under the banner of "truth". This sounds like yellow page journalism - "We must drag this into the public because 'truth'!". No. It's telling you choose to ignore 90% of what I said in the comment you replied to. You just like to argue and "to be right". I don't think you are actually interested in truth, but it's a nice narrative tat you carry in front of you like a holy banner. This topic has been discussed here on HN repeatedly, what I said initially has always been the recommendation. http://idealistcareers.org/you-left-a-job-on-bad-terms-now-what-what-to-say-to-a-potential-employer/ http://idealistcareers.org/you-left-a-job-on-bad-terms-now-w... http://work.chron.com/should-say-asked-previous-employers-3293.html http://work.chron.com/should-say-asked-previous-employers-32... > A prospective new employer may ask you why you left your previous job and what you liked and didn’t like about your employer. This line of questioning is designed not only to learn more about you and your professional history but also to find out about how you’re likely to characterize your new job in the future. If you talk poorly or complain, it sends a red flag that you are unprofessional and lack company loyalty. Over and out, it's getting ridiculous.

Noseshine 10y ago

> How then can others be warned about abusive Did you already forget that bluelu - the parent commenter - talked about a job interview here? You feel you need to warn your new employer to not apply for a job at your previous one? Nobody prevents you from doing everything else. But this is a job interview, and how you behave here shows how you will behave in the future. You think it's a good idea to show your new employer that you will shit-talk them next time?

20yrs_no_equity 10y ago
There's a big difference between "shit-talk" and honesty.
- Noseshine 10y ago
  Please read what I wrote above about "truth". You don't tell people your marriage problems because "truth". You just don't go around telling people about your private problems under the banner of "truth". This sounds like yellow page journalism - "We must drag this into the public because 'truth'!". No. It's telling you choose to ignore 90% of what I said in the comment you replied to. You just like to argue and "to be right". I don't think you are actually interested in truth, but it's a nice narrative tat you carry in front of you like a holy banner. This topic has been discussed here on HN repeatedly, what I said initially has always been the recommendation. http://idealistcareers.org/you-left-a-job-on-bad-terms-now-what-what-to-say-to-a-potential-employer/ http://idealistcareers.org/you-left-a-job-on-bad-terms-now-w... http://work.chron.com/should-say-asked-previous-employers-3293.html http://work.chron.com/should-say-asked-previous-employers-32... > A prospective new employer may ask you why you left your previous job and what you liked and didn’t like about your employer. This line of questioning is designed not only to learn more about you and your professional history but also to find out about how you’re likely to characterize your new job in the future. If you talk poorly or complain, it sends a red flag that you are unprofessional and lack company loyalty. Over and out, it's getting ridiculous.