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+1 We had a post about "we want a modern macbook" and your post was my post. As you I want a PRO version as in quad core, better graphics gazzillion of ports

by xlayn 10y ago

+1 We had a post about "we want a modern macbook" and your post was my post. As you I want a PRO version as in quad core, better graphics gazzillion of ports and cooling solution to keep everything running smoothly. But I think the PRO update will be inclined toward flashiness. I strongly believe we only have incremental updates to the pc as we know it. I have an ASUS ROG and it has a pair of HUGE fan vents on the back, that's the only way of keeping power running. Let's see what happens.

Someone1234 10y ago
> I have an ASUS ROG and it has a pair of HUGE fan vents on the back, that's the only way of keeping power running. Ditto. It isn't very mobile but holy heck is it an incredible developer machine. You really hear the huge cooling fans kick in when you hit compile on a large project.
yoodenvranx 10y ago
> "we want a modern macbook" All I want is a modern IBM T42 or T61 with a 14" screen. I don't care if it is ugly, big or weighs a ton. The only thing I care about is a good keyboard, a robust chassis and the fact that I can rebuild the whole thing with just a screwdriver.
- xlayn 10y ago
  With you, I own an x220 and a x200t that has been running as a server for more than 2 years non stop. I'm in love with the magnesium industrial construction and as you mention the keyboard. In fact the keyboard is the thing that would prevent me from upgrading to a newer thinkpad. As for opening and maintaining the elitebook 2560 with it tool-less chassis is an option as well as possessing the eraser head option and good keyboard.
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  I recently swapped the mainboard of my T420, it was quite easy to do with just a screwdriver (and the maintenance manual and some thermal grease). Extended this five year old machine's life by another year or so for ~50€. It was very easy to do with the manual. I'm not sure how much harder it is with the newer models, but maybe a ThinkPad meets your requirements better than a MacBook?
- bluedino 10y ago
  I don't. I like Lenovo keyboards but I like Apple's keyboard just as much. I also much prefer Apple's trackpad, thinness, screen, and battery life compared to my old IBM's.
coldtea 10y ago
>As you I want a PRO version as in quad core, better graphics gazzillion of ports and cooling solution to keep everything running smoothly. So you want one of these PC "desktop replacement" laptops, which weight in the tons, and have desktop-class hardware. That's not what the MBP's are about though.
- xlayn 10y ago
  Do you mind elaborating what are MBP about? Keep in mind that we already have the Air and plain MacBook options with increasing trade-offs to favor portability, which are the exact cure to your argument: "So you want one of these PC "desktop replacement" laptops, which weight in the tons, and have desktop-class hardware."
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >Do you mind elaborating what are MBP about? Keep in mind that we already have the Air and plain MacBook options with increasing trade-offs to favor portability, which are the exact cure to your argument All Mac laptops are supposed to be thin, weight little and generally make the right compromises for portability. The "Pro" line is also expected to have the most powerful graphics and cpu of the whole line, but still under the above restrictions. And they're supposed to only stay the same or go down (in weight/thinness) not have regressions to fit some desktop-class CPU. So it's not like Apple says "we have the Air and Macbook to cover thin and lightweight, so now we can pig it out with the Pro's". That has been their philosophy and design thinking from the start, and that's how they've sold all those million units.

by xlayn 10y ago

Someone1234 10y ago

> I have an ASUS ROG and it has a pair of HUGE fan vents on the back, that's the only way of keeping power running. Ditto. It isn't very mobile but holy heck is it an incredible developer machine. You really hear the huge cooling fans kick in when you hit compile on a large project.

yoodenvranx 10y ago

> "we want a modern macbook" All I want is a modern IBM T42 or T61 with a 14" screen. I don't care if it is ugly, big or weighs a ton. The only thing I care about is a good keyboard, a robust chassis and the fact that I can rebuild the whole thing with just a screwdriver.

xlayn 10y ago
With you, I own an x220 and a x200t that has been running as a server for more than 2 years non stop. I'm in love with the magnesium industrial construction and as you mention the keyboard. In fact the keyboard is the thing that would prevent me from upgrading to a newer thinkpad. As for opening and maintaining the elitebook 2560 with it tool-less chassis is an option as well as possessing the eraser head option and good keyboard.
lorenzhs 10y ago
I recently swapped the mainboard of my T420, it was quite easy to do with just a screwdriver (and the maintenance manual and some thermal grease). Extended this five year old machine's life by another year or so for ~50€. It was very easy to do with the manual. I'm not sure how much harder it is with the newer models, but maybe a ThinkPad meets your requirements better than a MacBook?
bluedino 10y ago
I don't. I like Lenovo keyboards but I like Apple's keyboard just as much. I also much prefer Apple's trackpad, thinness, screen, and battery life compared to my old IBM's.

coldtea 10y ago

>As you I want a PRO version as in quad core, better graphics gazzillion of ports and cooling solution to keep everything running smoothly. So you want one of these PC "desktop replacement" laptops, which weight in the tons, and have desktop-class hardware. That's not what the MBP's are about though.

xlayn 10y ago
Do you mind elaborating what are MBP about? Keep in mind that we already have the Air and plain MacBook options with increasing trade-offs to favor portability, which are the exact cure to your argument: "So you want one of these PC "desktop replacement" laptops, which weight in the tons, and have desktop-class hardware."
- coldtea 10y ago
  >Do you mind elaborating what are MBP about? Keep in mind that we already have the Air and plain MacBook options with increasing trade-offs to favor portability, which are the exact cure to your argument All Mac laptops are supposed to be thin, weight little and generally make the right compromises for portability. The "Pro" line is also expected to have the most powerful graphics and cpu of the whole line, but still under the above restrictions. And they're supposed to only stay the same or go down (in weight/thinness) not have regressions to fit some desktop-class CPU. So it's not like Apple says "we have the Air and Macbook to cover thin and lightweight, so now we can pig it out with the Pro's". That has been their philosophy and design thinking from the start, and that's how they've sold all those million units.