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I find it a bit funny and ironic that the only app I regularly use which prompts me to install Flash [0] is Google Music. On both Safari and Safari Technology P

I find it a bit funny and ironic that the only app I regularly use which prompts me to install Flash [0] is Google Music. On both Safari and Safari Technology Preview! I'm all for killing Flash, but if even Google is unable to completely do away with it, doesn't that mean that it might be a premature move? I don't have any interest in seeing Flash kept around. In fact, I'm quite happy to see it die. But do we actually have working alternatives for the problems it currently solves? I don't ask this rhetorically, I'm very curious if there's still problems which HTML5 is unable to reasonably solve. [0] https://www.dropbox.com/s/f52ew4wpwcmt1dr/Screenshot%202016-08-10%2005.25.48.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/f52ew4wpwcmt1dr/Screenshot%202016-...

drewg123 10y ago
That is ... strange. I run chromium on FreeBSD without flash, and Google Play Music works well for me (as opposed to Amazon Music, which wants flash). Perhaps it is something about safari vs chrome?
- m45t3r 10y ago
  Google Play Music supports HTML5, however I think it works better (i.e. more tested) with Flash or something. So Flash is still the default, while HTML5 is the fallback. And btw, GPM seems to use a similar DRM method as the one supported in Netflix, so if your browser does not support DRM, you're out of luck [1]. [1]: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com.br/2016/04/google-play-music-still-requires-flash.html http://googlesystem.blogspot.com.br/2016/04/google-play-musi...
  - drewg123 10y ago
    I only use GPM for DRM-free music that I've uploaded, so that must be why I'm not noticing any issues.
  - TheAceOfHearts 10y ago
    It's a bit frustrating, because it's the only remaining reason I have for installing Flash. There's some superb wrapper apps [0], but they apparently use WebKit.framework, so it still prompts you to install Flash. Although I just discovered that the Radiant Player people are working on an Electron version [1], which is very exciting! [0] https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-mac https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-mac [1] https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-electron https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-electron

drewg123 10y ago

That is ... strange. I run chromium on FreeBSD without flash, and Google Play Music works well for me (as opposed to Amazon Music, which wants flash). Perhaps it is something about safari vs chrome?

m45t3r 10y ago
Google Play Music supports HTML5, however I think it works better (i.e. more tested) with Flash or something. So Flash is still the default, while HTML5 is the fallback. And btw, GPM seems to use a similar DRM method as the one supported in Netflix, so if your browser does not support DRM, you're out of luck [1]. [1]: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com.br/2016/04/google-play-music-still-requires-flash.html http://googlesystem.blogspot.com.br/2016/04/google-play-musi...
- drewg123 10y ago
  I only use GPM for DRM-free music that I've uploaded, so that must be why I'm not noticing any issues.
- TheAceOfHearts 10y ago
  It's a bit frustrating, because it's the only remaining reason I have for installing Flash. There's some superb wrapper apps [0], but they apparently use WebKit.framework, so it still prompts you to install Flash. Although I just discovered that the Radiant Player people are working on an Electron version [1], which is very exciting! [0] https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-mac https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-mac [1] https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-electron https://github.com/radiant-player/radiant-player-electron