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> the Palestinian can't because he's not a Jew. Comparing the Mexican to the Palestinian is a laugh. The palestinian is a Jordanian citizen and can vote in wha
by beagle3 10y ago
> the Palestinian can't because he's not a Jew. Comparing the Mexican to the Palestinian is a laugh.
The palestinian is a Jordanian citizen and can vote in whatever election process Jordan allows its citizens. Or, at least, was until Jordan revoked that citizenship (which it has been doing for a while, incidentally because palestinians were threatening the Jordanian rulers[0]). I think Jordan at some point voided all of its claims to the west bank.
> Plenty of statements from Netanyahu and the ruling Likud are that the West Bank was annexed.
No, there aren't. Some of them wish it was annexed, and are working towards this, but fifty years later, there has been zero official movement towards. Those same people, by the way, talked exactly the same way about annexing Gaza -- which was unilaterally pulled out from.
> Then you say Palestinians are separate so should not be in the Knesset.
Yes. Just like the Gazans before them. It is likely that Israel will pull out, possibly unilaterally, out of the west bank, possibly following some forced land exchange.
Soundbites not withstanding, pre-1948 Palestinians that accepted Israel at its founding are Israeli citizens to this day (about 16% of the population, of which ~90% are Muslim and ~10% are christian).
> .... So Israelis condemning Hamas carries little weight.
So? The west supported Saddam Hussein up until the day they didn't. Alliances change. The Hamas of 1980 was against PLO and not throwing rockets at Israel, so it was supported by Israel. The Hamas of 2006 is throwing rockets at Israel, so is condemned by Israel.
> Also, Israel has a large and rapidly growing population of Jewish religious fundamentalists who control ALL marriages in Israel .... Israel has a large population of Jews like this.
You are deeply misinformed about this (and I suspect about other issues as well). Indeed there are jewish sects that are as horrible in their approach to freedom as Hamas and Saudi Arabia is, but
(a) they absolutely no control of "all marriages" and not even jewish marriages (and legally, not even within those same sects, although believers may choose to adhere), and
(b) even though they might like to, they cannot shoot or jail gay people or drop them off buildings the way Hamas and Saudi Arabia do, because that's not the law of the land. In fact, one of them just got life in prison for stabbing a gay pride participant. and
(c) While it this population is of nontrivial size, it is still a very small minority.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September