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PSA: In case you need more context, just go to the parent url: https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon

by Kurtz79 10y ago

PSA: In case you need more context, just go to the parent url: https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home Which from my understanding is a collection of anonymous rants from Amazon employees, and the posted link is just an example. As someone already posted, it would be interesting to hear if someone in HN can provide some counterexample, or if the rants are spot on.

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danso 10y ago
Back when scrutiny of Amazon's working conditions blew up after a NYT investigation, there were several HN'ers who had good things to say about working there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065243 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065243 Here's an anonymous comment that backed Amazon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065713 (there were plenty of negative experiences too)
bane 10y ago
I've known a few Amazonians and their stores more or less mirror the bad stuff I've heard (they all worked in the retail part as SDEs, not AWS). Some of the details about software processes and team build-up/dissolving make me wonder how the site even stays on-line. I also interviewed once with them for a TPM position and had a fairly weird discussion with the recruiter about compensation and had to field some pretty random interview questions. Nothing was particularly terrible about my experience, but it made me wonder if I wanted to move across the country for what looked like a very non-amazing job.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  >Some of the details about software processes and team build-up/dissolving make me wonder how the site even stays on-line. Their inventory system is totally screwed up, worst I ever seen. I can't understand how they can run their company the way they do. Examples: http://www.orensmoneysaver.com/2016/03/amazon-and-mysterious-case-of-lost.html http://www.orensmoneysaver.com/2016/03/amazon-and-mysterious... "I sent in 14. 14 were received, 1 was lost and 1 was found. How many should have? 14 How many does Amazon say I should have? 11. How many units do I actually have? 9."
  - staticautomatic 10y ago
    I can't get over how bad this is.
cm3 10y ago
Let's assume the rants are true for the most part. How is it possible that so many people work for Amazon despite the antics, especially in Seattle where it should be possible to get a similar job elsewhere. Are there benefits people work towards while coping with the toxic workplace?
- exit 10y ago
  people have far less freedom in deciding where to work than we fool ourselves into believing
  - johnmarius 10y ago
    you mean, amazon is better than whatever other places people could work instead?
    - quantumhobbit 10y ago
      Or they thought it would be better than their previous place and were stuck once there. Or it was the only place to give them an offer. Or the money was too good to pass up despite the abuse. Or they accepted the abuse for the name brand on their resume.
      - exit 10y ago
        this, + a lot of job searching happens in a desperate daze.
      - pascalxus 10y ago
        Or, they have a huge mortgage to pay off and are in danger of losing their house. That'll keep people in an abusive relationship for a long time.
    - ex_amazon_sde 10y ago
      Ex amzn here: most of my ex colleagues agree that claims regarding opportunities for growth and so on are massively exaggerated by managers and HR.
eumoria 10y ago
I would like to hear something from the other side but not many employees create entire sites dedicated to documenting management/abuse problems. That's a sign right there that it seems serious :(
CaptSpify 10y ago
Are there dates attached to these? I don't see any, and this complaint could be outdated (I doubt it is, but it still could be)

by Kurtz79 10y ago

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danso 10y ago

Back when scrutiny of Amazon's working conditions blew up after a NYT investigation, there were several HN'ers who had good things to say about working there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065243 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065243 Here's an anonymous comment that backed Amazon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10065713 (there were plenty of negative experiences too)

bane 10y ago

I've known a few Amazonians and their stores more or less mirror the bad stuff I've heard (they all worked in the retail part as SDEs, not AWS). Some of the details about software processes and team build-up/dissolving make me wonder how the site even stays on-line. I also interviewed once with them for a TPM position and had a fairly weird discussion with the recruiter about compensation and had to field some pretty random interview questions. Nothing was particularly terrible about my experience, but it made me wonder if I wanted to move across the country for what looked like a very non-amazing job.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
>Some of the details about software processes and team build-up/dissolving make me wonder how the site even stays on-line. Their inventory system is totally screwed up, worst I ever seen. I can't understand how they can run their company the way they do. Examples: http://www.orensmoneysaver.com/2016/03/amazon-and-mysterious-case-of-lost.html http://www.orensmoneysaver.com/2016/03/amazon-and-mysterious... "I sent in 14. 14 were received, 1 was lost and 1 was found. How many should have? 14 How many does Amazon say I should have? 11. How many units do I actually have? 9."
- staticautomatic 10y ago
  I can't get over how bad this is.

cm3 10y ago

Let's assume the rants are true for the most part. How is it possible that so many people work for Amazon despite the antics, especially in Seattle where it should be possible to get a similar job elsewhere. Are there benefits people work towards while coping with the toxic workplace?

exit 10y ago
people have far less freedom in deciding where to work than we fool ourselves into believing
- johnmarius 10y ago
  you mean, amazon is better than whatever other places people could work instead?
  - quantumhobbit 10y ago
    Or they thought it would be better than their previous place and were stuck once there. Or it was the only place to give them an offer. Or the money was too good to pass up despite the abuse. Or they accepted the abuse for the name brand on their resume.
    - exit 10y ago
      this, + a lot of job searching happens in a desperate daze.
    - pascalxus 10y ago
      Or, they have a huge mortgage to pay off and are in danger of losing their house. That'll keep people in an abusive relationship for a long time.
  - ex_amazon_sde 10y ago
    Ex amzn here: most of my ex colleagues agree that claims regarding opportunities for growth and so on are massively exaggerated by managers and HR.

eumoria 10y ago

I would like to hear something from the other side but not many employees create entire sites dedicated to documenting management/abuse problems. That's a sign right there that it seems serious :(

CaptSpify 10y ago

Are there dates attached to these? I don't see any, and this complaint could be outdated (I doubt it is, but it still could be)