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So I have to login to your page (that I never signed up for in the first place) which means I'm giving you access to my Twitter/Facebook account just to prevent

So I have to login to your page (that I never signed up for in the first place) which means I'm giving you access to my Twitter/Facebook account just to prevent people from posting to my "public message board"? That's messed up!

Jake232 10y ago
How else would you suggest they verify it? Without you proving you're the account owner; you could close down random peoples message board.
- klaustopher 10y ago
  There's a proven way to do this: opt-in instead of just assuming everyone wants this and can opt-out otherwise
  - BinaryIdiot 10y ago
    While you're correct you won't gain adoption nearly as fast with opt-in. If the OP wants this to take off without major changes then it's going to be opt-out. Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted; it's true. If someone has to opt into using your product you're starting out with friction from the gate which is difficult to overcome.
    - klaustopher 10y ago
      And that is what is inherently wrong with stuff like this. Sacrificing person's wishes for stuff like "growth", "adoption" or "conversion".
      - BinaryIdiot 10y ago
        That's called capitalism. Until the added friction of respecting a person's privacy is profitable it'll always be the lesser of the options available should you want to grow a company or product. Morally it's questionable but trying to create a grow a product it certainly shouldn't be surprising. Gitter does this and the HN crowed seemed to really like it last I saw it posted.
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        klaustopher 10y ago
        Again, you perfectly pinpoint the problem. I don't want a profile on this page. I am perfectly capable of setting up accounts on the platforms I want to monitor and I want to allow people to give me feedback on. I don't want anybody to make those decisions for me. Just because I set up a public profile on one page, does not mean, that I want others to scrape data from it and use this for their purpose. Of course, stuff like this happens all the time, but it doesn't make it right.
        BinaryIdiot 10y ago
        For sure and I'm not saying it's right I'm just saying with how our businesses work it's impossible to avoid.
    - deepinthewoods 10y ago
      Haha, that's the reasoning google when they rolled out g+ and that worked out great for them.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      Opt-out is legally dubious in most of Europe
- newman314 10y ago
  This corkpage thing is probably as tone-deaf as that startup that wanted to rate people [1]. Wait for the backlash... People typically do not like choices being made for them (once they are made aware of said actions). [1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/251284 https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/251284
- DanBC 10y ago
  I suggest they follow laws about obtaining permission to use my data before they use it.

Jake232 10y ago

How else would you suggest they verify it? Without you proving you're the account owner; you could close down random peoples message board.

klaustopher 10y ago
There's a proven way to do this: opt-in instead of just assuming everyone wants this and can opt-out otherwise
- BinaryIdiot 10y ago
  While you're correct you won't gain adoption nearly as fast with opt-in. If the OP wants this to take off without major changes then it's going to be opt-out. Edit: not sure why I'm being downvoted; it's true. If someone has to opt into using your product you're starting out with friction from the gate which is difficult to overcome.
  - klaustopher 10y ago
    And that is what is inherently wrong with stuff like this. Sacrificing person's wishes for stuff like "growth", "adoption" or "conversion".
    - BinaryIdiot 10y ago
      That's called capitalism. Until the added friction of respecting a person's privacy is profitable it'll always be the lesser of the options available should you want to grow a company or product. Morally it's questionable but trying to create a grow a product it certainly shouldn't be surprising. Gitter does this and the HN crowed seemed to really like it last I saw it posted.
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      - klaustopher 10y ago
        Again, you perfectly pinpoint the problem. I don't want a profile on this page. I am perfectly capable of setting up accounts on the platforms I want to monitor and I want to allow people to give me feedback on. I don't want anybody to make those decisions for me. Just because I set up a public profile on one page, does not mean, that I want others to scrape data from it and use this for their purpose. Of course, stuff like this happens all the time, but it doesn't make it right.
        BinaryIdiot 10y ago
        For sure and I'm not saying it's right I'm just saying with how our businesses work it's impossible to avoid.
  - deepinthewoods 10y ago
    Haha, that's the reasoning google when they rolled out g+ and that worked out great for them.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    Opt-out is legally dubious in most of Europe
newman314 10y ago
This corkpage thing is probably as tone-deaf as that startup that wanted to rate people [1]. Wait for the backlash... People typically do not like choices being made for them (once they are made aware of said actions). [1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/251284 https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/251284
DanBC 10y ago
I suggest they follow laws about obtaining permission to use my data before they use it.