3 ms·
I'll bite, and take the counterpoint. Most people aren't grin fucking you because of some inherent moral instability. They're doing it because fighting you ove
by trjordan 17y ago
I'll bite, and take the counterpoint.
Most people aren't grin fucking you because of some inherent moral instability. They're doing it because fighting you over your idea that you're in love with isn't worth it to them. First example he gives, where Manager Bob is getting ignored -- what if the executive simply doesn't need or respect Bob's opinion? He doesn't need to prove to every non-exec that he thinks his idea is good. Unfortunate, but a fact of life in a hierarchical organization.
I like to think of myself as direct and honest, but the overwhelming social norm (at least from what I've seen, on the East Coast of the US) is to pick your battles. If you push back on everything you disagree with, you surprise people and quickly pick up a reputation as argumentative. This is especially true if you engage on issues outside your area of expertise. Programmers telling accounting how to fund benefits? HR telling programmers which hours are "proper" to work? Organizational grunts telling execs which markets to expand into? Even if the outsider is right, it's not worth the time of the expert to fight it, and they'll smile, nod, and hope you go away quickly so they can continue being productive.
By all means, you should stand up and call out the obvious bullshit, but the world is not black and white.
- skybrian 17y agoIt's understandable that people get tired of repeating themselves, but on the other hand, if you're trying to be a leader and you're not selling your ideas to everyone around you who might listen (and using this as practice to improve your ideas and your sales pitch), you're not doing your job. I may not buy your argument but I'll respect you more for genuinely trying to sell it to me on it than for ignoring me.
- brandnewlow 17y agoAnother use case: You're talking to someone who's f*cking you over, big time. Responding with hostility or on-the-nose sincerity will only invite disaster or escalate the situation. Sometimes, not always, the right response is to smile broadly and say something friendly, Then get out of dodge.
- sgift 17y agoNothing hinders the executive from saying "Sorry Bob, I have decided this and now we'll do it." - Instead he is basically lying Bob straight in the face. This has nothing to do with picking your fights, but all to do with being unable to stand by your decision and be straight about it.
- darthpanda 17y agoI'm pretty sure you just grin fucked us all.