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The notion that a significant number of people in this country are drawn to a sociopath is fascinating. ... Yet there are a large number of people that are utte

by rsp1984 10y ago

The notion that a significant number of people in this country are drawn to a sociopath is fascinating. ... Yet there are a large number of people that are utterly missing the clues. The thing is I don't even think Trump's a sociopath. A troll for sure but not a sociopath. I had the displeasure of meeting some real sociopaths in my life. The dumb ones are easy to spot and typically end up broke and/or in jail. But the smart ones are way, way more subtle than Trump. A smart sociopath typically aims to make you believe that they are the nicest person in the world in order to gain your trust. Once they have it their goal is to use it for their maximum profit while giving back nothing in return. Lies and deceit are their primary tools. Trump's not one of these. He's blatantly disrespectful and crude and quite certainly lacks education, manner and values. But he's not trying to mislead anyone about it. In fact he's pretty upfront about it. And that's what separates the troll from the sociopath.

protomyth 10y ago
> He's blatantly disrespectful and crude and quite certainly lacks education, manner and values Yeah, Trump isn't a sociopath. He has a shtick which isn't unusual given his profession. After listening to him, I don't think he's being deceptive, he ad libs pretty consistently to the same beliefs. I don't think Trump lacks education. He's not a stupid person and his family had the money to get him a decent education which he took advantage of. I expect the media to say he's stupid because they have never said any Republican is educated or smart. Mr. Catmull's line is one of those "I'm smatter than everyone else and see the truth" lines often used in politics (and sadly, journalism). The common people would think just like me if they weren't mislead (charitable reason) or stupid (malice reason). He really isn't examining why Trump won the nomination, but I wouldn't expect him too since he made his mind up already. Of course, his own actions in regards to worker pay while at the same time touting how important his people were might face the same accusations. He was a hero of mine, then the scandal was revealed and there was no apology, now he's been just another brick in the wall.
- dtien 10y ago
  > He really isn't examining why Trump won the nomination, but I wouldn't expect him too since he made his mind up already. Actually, I think he's getting at that very point in his statement. The 'sociopath' and 'missing clues' comment certainly frames it a certain way and reveals his bias, but to be fair he does state in the very following sentence, "What are the fears inside of them that get us to this place"
  - protomyth 10y ago
    I thought the fear line just reinforced the negatives directed at the voters and his made up mind. Everyone has fears, but I think focusing any honest enquiry of Trump's nomination on voter fear is just not looking very hard. It neglects the history and attempted influencers.
jrowley 10y ago
I think he's looking for the word demagogue. Trump is a textbook demagogue: "a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument." http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/demagogue http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_eng...

by rsp1984 10y ago

protomyth 10y ago

> He's blatantly disrespectful and crude and quite certainly lacks education, manner and values Yeah, Trump isn't a sociopath. He has a shtick which isn't unusual given his profession. After listening to him, I don't think he's being deceptive, he ad libs pretty consistently to the same beliefs. I don't think Trump lacks education. He's not a stupid person and his family had the money to get him a decent education which he took advantage of. I expect the media to say he's stupid because they have never said any Republican is educated or smart. Mr. Catmull's line is one of those "I'm smatter than everyone else and see the truth" lines often used in politics (and sadly, journalism). The common people would think just like me if they weren't mislead (charitable reason) or stupid (malice reason). He really isn't examining why Trump won the nomination, but I wouldn't expect him too since he made his mind up already. Of course, his own actions in regards to worker pay while at the same time touting how important his people were might face the same accusations. He was a hero of mine, then the scandal was revealed and there was no apology, now he's been just another brick in the wall.

dtien 10y ago
> He really isn't examining why Trump won the nomination, but I wouldn't expect him too since he made his mind up already. Actually, I think he's getting at that very point in his statement. The 'sociopath' and 'missing clues' comment certainly frames it a certain way and reveals his bias, but to be fair he does state in the very following sentence, "What are the fears inside of them that get us to this place"
- protomyth 10y ago
  I thought the fear line just reinforced the negatives directed at the voters and his made up mind. Everyone has fears, but I think focusing any honest enquiry of Trump's nomination on voter fear is just not looking very hard. It neglects the history and attempted influencers.

jrowley 10y ago

I think he's looking for the word demagogue. Trump is a textbook demagogue: "a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument." http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/demagogue http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_eng...