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Don't suck up my bandwidth on your crappy attitude. You know facebook is ad supported. If you don't want to look at ads, why do you keep going there?

by blahi 10y ago

FoeNyx 10y ago
> why do you keep going there? Have you ever considered that some contents are only available there? It's more the fault of some users that post required informations there, but it's a reality. Personally I rarely go there, and would rather never have to go there.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  additionally: FB forces itself into your life by adding tracking on non-FB sites. Even if I never go to FB, they can still track me, and sell my data.
  - FoeNyx 10y ago
    Indeed their shadow profiling via other websites is a serious concern (I usually try to block requests to fb/goog on other websites, with the help of some browser addons). But my main concern, as other people mentioned it here too, is rather about the safety of the displayed ads: malevolent ads are an important security (and privacy) risk. And I doubt ads sellers would cover any damages occurring to me because of them (moreover proving it seems difficult).
- blahi 10y ago
  I fail to see why that consideration should make a difference. Facebook provides a service, if you want to use the service, you see ads. If you don't want to see ads, don't use the service. Your livelihood is not threatened if you don't see some information hidden through a facebook login. If some friend of yours handles invitation through FB, that is because facebook provides a very good infrastructure to handle those things. In order for them to do that, they have to hire all sorts of people which kind of need salaries. Those salaries are paid by their business model. You are blocking their business model, consuming their resources and denying their employees and shareholders. Because...? I can see enabling adblock for the internet at large and sites you don't care about, but you KNOW that facebook relies on ads and you repeatedly use them. I also want to hear if you use google and adblock them too. Do you rarely go there too?
  - elmigranto 10y ago
    No. Facebook does not provide a service, you said it yourself, it is "ad supported". What they provide is a platform that companies pay to show ads on. Kind of like billboards and ad agencies. Snickers bar drawn on the street is not a service, even if you happened to glance over it.
    - blahi 10y ago
      Chatting with your friends and looking at their pictures are not services? The lengths to which you guys will go to for justification of your sense of entitlement is staggering.
      - elmigranto 10y ago
        They are but not in a sense in which, for example, Netflix is, where terms are clear — pay and enjoy content. FB is also a service as an ad platform — pay and we will show your ads to people. Anyone with FB profile is not "getting serviced", they are a commodity same as peanuts at the store, but it instead of storing boxes in a warehouse, FB hosts your photos. There is expectation that most of users won't block ads, just like most of peanuts get sold.
        blahi 10y ago
        The terms are not clear only in the heads of people who think they can have their cake and eat it too.
        elmigranto 10y ago
        Let's not look into our heads for clear terms, but rather operate on actual FB's Terms and Conditions document, which does not include anything about me watching their ads or not blocking them: http://facebook.com/terms http://facebook.com/terms Also, index page of Facebook says in huge letters that "It's free and always will be.", so not sure why you are so eager to prove I am to pay for it somehow.
nzp 10y ago
It's a voluntary commercial relationship between me (or any other patron of Facebook) and Facebook, and none of your business. Neither I nor Facebook need to justify any aspect of said relationship to you or any third party as long as they are legal, and even if any aspects were illegal it's still none of your business. I am more than welcome at Facebook without ever looking or seeing a single ad they're showing, and I'm pretty sure Facebook would resent your attempt at driving their customers away.

Don't suck up my bandwidth on your crappy attitude. You know facebook is ad supported. If you don't want to look at ads, why do you keep going there?

by blahi 10y ago

Don't suck up my bandwidth on your crappy attitude. You know facebook is ad supported. If you don't want to look at ads, why do you keep going there?

FoeNyx 10y ago

> why do you keep going there? Have you ever considered that some contents are only available there? It's more the fault of some users that post required informations there, but it's a reality. Personally I rarely go there, and would rather never have to go there.

CaptSpify 10y ago
additionally: FB forces itself into your life by adding tracking on non-FB sites. Even if I never go to FB, they can still track me, and sell my data.
- FoeNyx 10y ago
  Indeed their shadow profiling via other websites is a serious concern (I usually try to block requests to fb/goog on other websites, with the help of some browser addons). But my main concern, as other people mentioned it here too, is rather about the safety of the displayed ads: malevolent ads are an important security (and privacy) risk. And I doubt ads sellers would cover any damages occurring to me because of them (moreover proving it seems difficult).
blahi 10y ago
I fail to see why that consideration should make a difference. Facebook provides a service, if you want to use the service, you see ads. If you don't want to see ads, don't use the service. Your livelihood is not threatened if you don't see some information hidden through a facebook login. If some friend of yours handles invitation through FB, that is because facebook provides a very good infrastructure to handle those things. In order for them to do that, they have to hire all sorts of people which kind of need salaries. Those salaries are paid by their business model. You are blocking their business model, consuming their resources and denying their employees and shareholders. Because...? I can see enabling adblock for the internet at large and sites you don't care about, but you KNOW that facebook relies on ads and you repeatedly use them. I also want to hear if you use google and adblock them too. Do you rarely go there too?
- elmigranto 10y ago
  No. Facebook does not provide a service, you said it yourself, it is "ad supported". What they provide is a platform that companies pay to show ads on. Kind of like billboards and ad agencies. Snickers bar drawn on the street is not a service, even if you happened to glance over it.
  - blahi 10y ago
    Chatting with your friends and looking at their pictures are not services? The lengths to which you guys will go to for justification of your sense of entitlement is staggering.
    - elmigranto 10y ago
      They are but not in a sense in which, for example, Netflix is, where terms are clear — pay and enjoy content. FB is also a service as an ad platform — pay and we will show your ads to people. Anyone with FB profile is not "getting serviced", they are a commodity same as peanuts at the store, but it instead of storing boxes in a warehouse, FB hosts your photos. There is expectation that most of users won't block ads, just like most of peanuts get sold.
      - blahi 10y ago
        The terms are not clear only in the heads of people who think they can have their cake and eat it too.
        elmigranto 10y ago
        Let's not look into our heads for clear terms, but rather operate on actual FB's Terms and Conditions document, which does not include anything about me watching their ads or not blocking them: http://facebook.com/terms http://facebook.com/terms Also, index page of Facebook says in huge letters that "It's free and always will be.", so not sure why you are so eager to prove I am to pay for it somehow.

nzp 10y ago

It's a voluntary commercial relationship between me (or any other patron of Facebook) and Facebook, and none of your business. Neither I nor Facebook need to justify any aspect of said relationship to you or any third party as long as they are legal, and even if any aspects were illegal it's still none of your business. I am more than welcome at Facebook without ever looking or seeing a single ad they're showing, and I'm pretty sure Facebook would resent your attempt at driving their customers away.