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Lower bound for someone who "really likes beer" is maybe a six-pack a week or about $500 for the year. Upper bound is maybe three fancy pints per day or about

Lower bound for someone who "really likes beer" is maybe a six-pack a week or about $500 for the year. Upper bound is maybe three fancy pints per day or about $7500 per year. About the same range as a used motorcycle on Craigslist.

brianwawok 10y ago
So let's meet in the middle and call it $3k? If you value your time at $100 an hour, and had $1k in expenses total (servers + ads), you would need to have spent 20 hours or less on the project to "break even"... Seems like I would just leave the sucker up to get a few bucks a month vs selling so cheap.
- cloverich 10y ago
  True, but could also be viewed as simply a sunk cost. If so and you have no longer have interest in it, then even 3k is a phenomenal value.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >If you value your time at $100 an hour Because very many programmers, even in the US, make 240,000 per year? ($100x8x2512). Or even $300-$350K, given all the overtime people do? How about $30-$40/hour to be more realistic ($70K-$100K per year). And how about, it's your side project, so you get to work on it whenever you like, using whatever technology you like, from home etc, and those aren't exactly hours you'd be able to bill to anyone (and because you also have a day job, you wouldn't even want to take extra billable customer work). >and had $1k in expenses total (servers + ads), you would need to have spent 20 hours or less on the project to "break even"* Or you need to like what you're doing, and know that you would have done something similar anyway even if not to sell it, and thus consider the money an extra bonus.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    Your hourly wage should be priced much higher than your wage for fixed yearly employment because the time is inconsistent and there is overhead. If you make $100k/year at a full time salaried job you should price your hourly at $100/hr. This is why plumbers charge $80+/hr -- it is skilled labor and the work is not constant and there is overhead. You have to consider vacation time/benefits/overhead/etc. To estimate yearly salary at full employment of near 40hrs/wk is double the hourly x 1000 per year. So a $100/hr wage is about $200k/year if you are working a full 40hrs per week on client work and there is no overhead. This is never the case -- there is always overhead. tldr: $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time.
    - brianwawok 10y ago
      > tldr: $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time. I was with you until you added the k to the last line ;) But yes, I don't think looking at a dev thing and valuing my time as $100 an hour is that far off. Even if it is off by $50 either way, it makes math easier...
    - justinlardinois 10y ago
      $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time if they're self-employed.

brianwawok 10y ago

So let's meet in the middle and call it $3k? If you value your time at $100 an hour, and had $1k in expenses total (servers + ads), you would need to have spent 20 hours or less on the project to "break even"... Seems like I would just leave the sucker up to get a few bucks a month vs selling so cheap.

cloverich 10y ago
True, but could also be viewed as simply a sunk cost. If so and you have no longer have interest in it, then even 3k is a phenomenal value.
coldtea 10y ago
>If you value your time at $100 an hour Because very many programmers, even in the US, make 240,000 per year? ($100x8x2512). Or even $300-$350K, given all the overtime people do? How about $30-$40/hour to be more realistic ($70K-$100K per year). And how about, it's your side project, so you get to work on it whenever you like, using whatever technology you like, from home etc, and those aren't exactly hours you'd be able to bill to anyone (and because you also have a day job, you wouldn't even want to take extra billable customer work). >and had $1k in expenses total (servers + ads), you would need to have spent 20 hours or less on the project to "break even"* Or you need to like what you're doing, and know that you would have done something similar anyway even if not to sell it, and thus consider the money an extra bonus.
- daveguy 10y ago
  Your hourly wage should be priced much higher than your wage for fixed yearly employment because the time is inconsistent and there is overhead. If you make $100k/year at a full time salaried job you should price your hourly at $100/hr. This is why plumbers charge $80+/hr -- it is skilled labor and the work is not constant and there is overhead. You have to consider vacation time/benefits/overhead/etc. To estimate yearly salary at full employment of near 40hrs/wk is double the hourly x 1000 per year. So a $100/hr wage is about $200k/year if you are working a full 40hrs per week on client work and there is no overhead. This is never the case -- there is always overhead. tldr: $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time.
  - brianwawok 10y ago
    > tldr: $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time. I was with you until you added the k to the last line ;) But yes, I don't think looking at a dev thing and valuing my time as $100 an hour is that far off. Even if it is off by $50 either way, it makes math easier...
  - justinlardinois 10y ago
    $100k/hr is not at all an unreasonable level for a software developer to value their hourly time if they're self-employed.