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Facebook already owns my personal data and any content that I publish. Why should I also have to look at ads?

by gramstrong 10y ago

SolarUpNote 10y ago
What good is your personal information if it's not to show you personalized ads?
- alkonaut 10y ago
  They can sell it to third parties, who can in turn show ads on other sites.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
supster 10y ago
That data and content is (near) worthless if they can't serve up ads against it.
- creshal 10y ago
  That's facebook's problem, not the user's.
  - untog 10y ago
    And Facebook is acting on that problem.
    - fwn 10y ago
      I don't think that this was questioned here.
  - omginternets 10y ago
    You've got it exactly backwards. The service is free, ergo you are the product, ergo Facebook's problems are your problems. You have three choices: 1. Stop using Facebook 2. Pay Facebook to remove ads 3. Look at ads I've opted for option 1, though I'll happily revisit this choice if Facebook (A) finds a way to make money without serving ads and without requiring me to pay out-of-pocket (unlikely) or (B) Facebook starts serving ads I want to consume. (Welcome to native advertising.)
    - FoeNyx 10y ago
      Is option 2 even possible at the moment?
      - omginternets 10y ago
        No -- admittedly I'm mixing hypotheticals with existing solutions, but the point remains valid.
        type0 10y ago
        > but the point remains valid. No it doesn't, exactly the point, you can't pay them so you have no transactional or business relation, in fact one SHOULD block the ads that are forced upon you. Linkedin for example prohibit adblocking in their TOS, they can do this because you can pay them to get rid of the ads.
        omginternets 10y ago
        That wasn't the point. The point was that Facebook's problems are de facto the user's problems. Ad-blocking is, indeed, a solution, but one can't expect Facebook to (re)act in the user's interest.
    - pavel_lishin 10y ago
      Facebook's problems, which are my problems, are solved by opting for choice #4: use an ad-blocker.
RexM 10y ago
What's the value of your personal data and content if they can't use it to target ads to you?
- jcoffland 10y ago
  What's the value of FB of it does not have people's personal data on it?
sfifs 10y ago
Because it pays their bills and salaries? The only real reason need your personal data is so they can show you Ads with presumably more effective targeting so they can get a greater share of advertising revenue. It pays to remember that most forms of media - TV, Net, Print etc. are basically funded by money from advertisers.
- type0 10y ago
  It pays their bills right. They would have to move the advertising into real world. Essentially "Minority Report" version of advertising. Unless users stop owning their machines there will always be ways to block the ads.

Facebook already owns my personal data and any content that I publish. Why should I also have to look at ads?

SolarUpNote 10y ago

What good is your personal information if it's not to show you personalized ads?

alkonaut 10y ago
They can sell it to third parties, who can in turn show ads on other sites.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]

supster 10y ago

That data and content is (near) worthless if they can't serve up ads against it.

creshal 10y ago
That's facebook's problem, not the user's.
- untog 10y ago
  And Facebook is acting on that problem.
  - fwn 10y ago
    I don't think that this was questioned here.
- omginternets 10y ago
  You've got it exactly backwards. The service is free, ergo you are the product, ergo Facebook's problems are your problems. You have three choices: 1. Stop using Facebook 2. Pay Facebook to remove ads 3. Look at ads I've opted for option 1, though I'll happily revisit this choice if Facebook (A) finds a way to make money without serving ads and without requiring me to pay out-of-pocket (unlikely) or (B) Facebook starts serving ads I want to consume. (Welcome to native advertising.)
  - FoeNyx 10y ago
    Is option 2 even possible at the moment?
    - omginternets 10y ago
      No -- admittedly I'm mixing hypotheticals with existing solutions, but the point remains valid.
      - type0 10y ago
        > but the point remains valid. No it doesn't, exactly the point, you can't pay them so you have no transactional or business relation, in fact one SHOULD block the ads that are forced upon you. Linkedin for example prohibit adblocking in their TOS, they can do this because you can pay them to get rid of the ads.
        omginternets 10y ago
        That wasn't the point. The point was that Facebook's problems are de facto the user's problems. Ad-blocking is, indeed, a solution, but one can't expect Facebook to (re)act in the user's interest.
  - pavel_lishin 10y ago
    Facebook's problems, which are my problems, are solved by opting for choice #4: use an ad-blocker.

RexM 10y ago

What's the value of your personal data and content if they can't use it to target ads to you?

jcoffland 10y ago
What's the value of FB of it does not have people's personal data on it?

sfifs 10y ago

Because it pays their bills and salaries? The only real reason need your personal data is so they can show you Ads with presumably more effective targeting so they can get a greater share of advertising revenue. It pays to remember that most forms of media - TV, Net, Print etc. are basically funded by money from advertisers.

type0 10y ago
It pays their bills right. They would have to move the advertising into real world. Essentially "Minority Report" version of advertising. Unless users stop owning their machines there will always be ways to block the ads.