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If Apple really cared about privacy they wouldn't ask for your data. But, they quickly realized they needed your data to even be remotely competitive. It's funn

If Apple really cared about privacy they wouldn't ask for your data. But, they quickly realized they needed your data to even be remotely competitive. It's funny that they criticize Google and other companies for using your data, but seem to think their impervious to the criticism because they're using "differential privacy". Apple is no better than the other companies using your data and trying to cloak their objectives with a PR campaign to justify their actions is typical Apple hypocrisy.

CaptSpify 10y ago
I have yet to see evidence of Apple selling personal data in the same way that Google does. I don't trust them, because they are closed off, and could be collecting it nefariously, but we really don't know if they are being genuine or not.
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  Google doesn't sell personal data. I'm amazed how many people don't understand this. Google makes their money by allowing advertisers to target certain demographics - the same way Apple tried to with their failed iAds service.
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    Possibly poor phrasing on my part, but that doesn't affect my point. Also, Google stores personal data, which makes it an issue. Privacy isn't just about sales, it's also about malicious actors having access to it.
    - bitmapbrother 10y ago
      Apple, as do countless other companies, also store personal data and use it for personal gain.
      - CaptSpify 10y ago
        I'm not defending apple, I'm just saying we don't know what they collect, or how they use it. Google clearly has a business model that relies on gathering the most data and using it.
        bitmapbrother 10y ago
        And Apple doesn't have a business model, either direct or indirect, for collecting and using your data? We're in the age of context. Every company that wants to play in this game needs as much data as they can get about you. Apple is no exception, but they're going to use their PR machine to deflect the negative connotations surrounding it.
        CaptSpify 10y ago
        Oh, I totally agree that it's possible, and even likely that they can and do use your data. That's one of the reasons I don't use their products. I'm saying that they don't rely on it nearly as much as Google, and at the end of the day, we don't know what they collect.

CaptSpify 10y ago

I have yet to see evidence of Apple selling personal data in the same way that Google does. I don't trust them, because they are closed off, and could be collecting it nefariously, but we really don't know if they are being genuine or not.

bitmapbrother 10y ago
Google doesn't sell personal data. I'm amazed how many people don't understand this. Google makes their money by allowing advertisers to target certain demographics - the same way Apple tried to with their failed iAds service.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  Possibly poor phrasing on my part, but that doesn't affect my point. Also, Google stores personal data, which makes it an issue. Privacy isn't just about sales, it's also about malicious actors having access to it.
  - bitmapbrother 10y ago
    Apple, as do countless other companies, also store personal data and use it for personal gain.
    - CaptSpify 10y ago
      I'm not defending apple, I'm just saying we don't know what they collect, or how they use it. Google clearly has a business model that relies on gathering the most data and using it.
      - bitmapbrother 10y ago
        And Apple doesn't have a business model, either direct or indirect, for collecting and using your data? We're in the age of context. Every company that wants to play in this game needs as much data as they can get about you. Apple is no exception, but they're going to use their PR machine to deflect the negative connotations surrounding it.
        CaptSpify 10y ago
        Oh, I totally agree that it's possible, and even likely that they can and do use your data. That's one of the reasons I don't use their products. I'm saying that they don't rely on it nearly as much as Google, and at the end of the day, we don't know what they collect.