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The fact that you say that a thinkpad with an 8-year old cpu suffices only proves the author's point. Why is it a bad thing when this is good enough for Apple u

The fact that you say that a thinkpad with an 8-year old cpu suffices only proves the author's point. Why is it a bad thing when this is good enough for Apple users, but a good thing for you?

tdkl 10y ago
Because they are selling components inside as new (+ Apple tax) and not per market value.
- rbanffy 10y ago
  One of the points the article makes is that the newer components (mind you the parts inside are new, just not from the latest generation) don't have performance improvements that warrant the retooling and update. At least for me, Apple doesn't sell the fastest computers. It sells well built computers with a polished OS. With all the stories about malware built into Thinkpads, I am somewhat relieved there is someone building malware free solid and reliable computers I can expect to use for many years.
  - pawadu 10y ago
    I think what parent is trying to say is that Apple charges $1100 for 4 year old technology, something no other company is able to do. I recently paid $90 for a six year old ThinkPad and it works flawlessly. If we are going to settle for old technology (which both you, OP and the author claim is good enough), then why not also pay less?
    - tdkl 10y ago
      Precisely. Apple just realized it can sell whatever they want at high margins and get away with it.
      - pawadu 10y ago
        I don't think Apple needs to "realize" anything. They will try to sell hardware with huge profit margins and unless people stop buying them there is really no reason for Apple to change. This was what the Verge articles was trying to highlight, which in turn was what the author here was trying to criticize (?!).
      - rbanffy 10y ago
        Or maybe we should realize that there is more to a computer than its CPU speed. Maybe battery life, build quality, reasonable display and field expandability have something to do with it.
    - rbanffy 10y ago
      You paid $90 for a computer that has been used for 6 years, not for a boxed 6 year old Thinkpad. You probably spent a whole day wiping the disk and installing an operating system before you could do any work on it. There is a limit on how low the price of a MacBook can go. It's not made of injected plastic, the display from 4 years back is better than most brand new laptops and the backlit keyboard is well-built and feels very good (even after a couple years). It's true Apple could have updated its only field expandable laptop, but, again, there is much more to a laptop than processor speed. You got yourself a 6 year old Thinkpad. Try to do that with a 6 year old HP, Asus, Acer or any other brand. You'll be lucky if they boot after that long.
      - pawadu 10y ago
        The company I got my last laptop from sells business refurbished Lenovo and Apple laptops. I initially looked into their macbooks. But the Thinkpas were in significantly better shape despite being 1-2 years older. They were also much cheaper. I believe you are seriously underestimating the quality of apple competitors.

The fact that you say that a thinkpad with an 8-year old cpu suffices only proves the author's point. Why is it a bad thing when this is good enough for Apple users, but a good thing for you?

tdkl 10y ago

Because they are selling components inside as new (+ Apple tax) and not per market value.

rbanffy 10y ago
One of the points the article makes is that the newer components (mind you the parts inside are new, just not from the latest generation) don't have performance improvements that warrant the retooling and update. At least for me, Apple doesn't sell the fastest computers. It sells well built computers with a polished OS. With all the stories about malware built into Thinkpads, I am somewhat relieved there is someone building malware free solid and reliable computers I can expect to use for many years.
- pawadu 10y ago
  I think what parent is trying to say is that Apple charges $1100 for 4 year old technology, something no other company is able to do. I recently paid $90 for a six year old ThinkPad and it works flawlessly. If we are going to settle for old technology (which both you, OP and the author claim is good enough), then why not also pay less?
  - tdkl 10y ago
    Precisely. Apple just realized it can sell whatever they want at high margins and get away with it.
    - pawadu 10y ago
      I don't think Apple needs to "realize" anything. They will try to sell hardware with huge profit margins and unless people stop buying them there is really no reason for Apple to change. This was what the Verge articles was trying to highlight, which in turn was what the author here was trying to criticize (?!).
    - rbanffy 10y ago
      Or maybe we should realize that there is more to a computer than its CPU speed. Maybe battery life, build quality, reasonable display and field expandability have something to do with it.
  - rbanffy 10y ago
    You paid $90 for a computer that has been used for 6 years, not for a boxed 6 year old Thinkpad. You probably spent a whole day wiping the disk and installing an operating system before you could do any work on it. There is a limit on how low the price of a MacBook can go. It's not made of injected plastic, the display from 4 years back is better than most brand new laptops and the backlit keyboard is well-built and feels very good (even after a couple years). It's true Apple could have updated its only field expandable laptop, but, again, there is much more to a laptop than processor speed. You got yourself a 6 year old Thinkpad. Try to do that with a 6 year old HP, Asus, Acer or any other brand. You'll be lucky if they boot after that long.
    - pawadu 10y ago
      The company I got my last laptop from sells business refurbished Lenovo and Apple laptops. I initially looked into their macbooks. But the Thinkpas were in significantly better shape despite being 1-2 years older. They were also much cheaper. I believe you are seriously underestimating the quality of apple competitors.