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I'm not going to generalize the entire republican voter base, but they contain a disproportionate number of "I've got mine, sod off" types of people backing the

by snuxoll 10y ago

I'm not going to generalize the entire republican voter base, but they contain a disproportionate number of "I've got mine, sod off" types of people backing them (not that the current democratic party could be seen as much better). Point is though, not every person who lives in a rural area is some idiot that complains about paying taxes while raking in farming subsidies paid by said taxes.

refurb 10y ago
This is why American politics is so poisonous. When people disagree with you, it's not because they have a different point of view, it's because they're "bad".
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  On that note, I found this talk on Moral Politics by George Lakoff[1] elsewhere on HN. The basic idea is that people who have different political opinions to you aren't necessarily stupid or greedy or bad actors, they just have different morals and therefore a different set of rationales. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM
  - refurb 10y ago
    Honestly, I would estimate 95% of Americans all have the same goals for the country. A healthy environment, prosperous economy, healthy population, stability, etc. The differences come about as to how to get there. If you have different foundational beliefs as to how things work, of course you'll disagree as to what needs to be done to fix things.
TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
they contain a disproportionate number of "I've got mine, sod off" types of people backing them (not that the current democratic party could be seen as much better). First you say you're not going to generalise, then you do. Then you negate your next point by saying that democrat voters are just as bad. What are you trying to say? To your last point, people who complain about paying taxes while being the beneficiaries of government largess aren't idiots. I'd posit they're probably smarter than I am, at least financially because I only ever pay tax.

by snuxoll 10y ago

refurb 10y ago

This is why American politics is so poisonous. When people disagree with you, it's not because they have a different point of view, it's because they're "bad".

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
On that note, I found this talk on Moral Politics by George Lakoff[1] elsewhere on HN. The basic idea is that people who have different political opinions to you aren't necessarily stupid or greedy or bad actors, they just have different morals and therefore a different set of rationales. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM
- refurb 10y ago
  Honestly, I would estimate 95% of Americans all have the same goals for the country. A healthy environment, prosperous economy, healthy population, stability, etc. The differences come about as to how to get there. If you have different foundational beliefs as to how things work, of course you'll disagree as to what needs to be done to fix things.

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

they contain a disproportionate number of "I've got mine, sod off" types of people backing them (not that the current democratic party could be seen as much better). First you say you're not going to generalise, then you do. Then you negate your next point by saying that democrat voters are just as bad. What are you trying to say? To your last point, people who complain about paying taxes while being the beneficiaries of government largess aren't idiots. I'd posit they're probably smarter than I am, at least financially because I only ever pay tax.