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People who buy the top of the line mac are almost certainly professionals, not average joe's reading emails and visiting facebook. The 16GB limitation is a prob

by tensor 10y ago

People who buy the top of the line mac are almost certainly professionals, not average joe's reading emails and visiting facebook. The 16GB limitation is a problem, as is having outdated hardware. Apple is failing the professional market significantly, and not just in hardware. They've also been killing off their pro software offerings. It's making a lot of us very uneasy.

angry-hacker 10y ago
Professional market is not their target audience. They are not failing on anything. They design for people who have the most money, who pay them most often and the ones there are the most. Some bloke wanting 16gb of ram doesn't meet that criteria and never will.
- tensor 10y ago
  The professional market has absolutely been part of their target audience. Do you really think the Mac Pro and Macbook Pro is aimed at casual users? Hell, when it first came out the Mac Pro was aimed almost above most professionals needs. A solid desktop with 32gb ram and a top end GPU would more than suffice for most professionals in graphics, development, and data analysis. Besides, even if they were not targeting professionals, they would still be failing that market. Targeting a market is not a prerequisite for being judged suitable for a market.
andyfleming 10y ago
It's been sad to see them neglecting their pro software and making poor decisions in those departments (see Final Cut Pro community). I've started to look to other companies that are wholly focused on creating software for creative industries where I know they will continue to grow and nurture their products. The bigger issue I have is with the lack of attention to hardware and core OS issues. I'm not sure if they are just distracted building the new iCar or what, but all I want for them to do is to ship a reliable version of OS X (like they have historically) and to ship solid hardware that isn't 3+ years old. The other options (PC, Linux) are not viable alternatives yet for creative industries (in my opinion).

by tensor 10y ago

angry-hacker 10y ago

Professional market is not their target audience. They are not failing on anything. They design for people who have the most money, who pay them most often and the ones there are the most. Some bloke wanting 16gb of ram doesn't meet that criteria and never will.

tensor 10y ago
The professional market has absolutely been part of their target audience. Do you really think the Mac Pro and Macbook Pro is aimed at casual users? Hell, when it first came out the Mac Pro was aimed almost above most professionals needs. A solid desktop with 32gb ram and a top end GPU would more than suffice for most professionals in graphics, development, and data analysis. Besides, even if they were not targeting professionals, they would still be failing that market. Targeting a market is not a prerequisite for being judged suitable for a market.

andyfleming 10y ago

It's been sad to see them neglecting their pro software and making poor decisions in those departments (see Final Cut Pro community). I've started to look to other companies that are wholly focused on creating software for creative industries where I know they will continue to grow and nurture their products. The bigger issue I have is with the lack of attention to hardware and core OS issues. I'm not sure if they are just distracted building the new iCar or what, but all I want for them to do is to ship a reliable version of OS X (like they have historically) and to ship solid hardware that isn't 3+ years old. The other options (PC, Linux) are not viable alternatives yet for creative industries (in my opinion).