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Is 'fast enough' worth it for an expensive laptop such as a MacBook Pro? I'm not sure. Personally I'd really like to see more powerful GPUs in MacBooks...

ViViDboarder 10y ago
Right. I think that's the bigger point. The author says you used to pay a lot for Apple because you knew you were getting "the best computer". Now it's not so simple.
- Nullabillity 10y ago
  > The author says you used to pay a lot for Apple because you knew you were getting "the best computer". Must be rose-tinted glasses. Apple has been about peddling (what would otherwise be) low-end budget computers to fashion enthusiasts for massive markups for at least a decade.
  - Retra 10y ago
    The only reason I bought an MBP is because it was the only aluminum-bodied, non-touchscreen laptop with a reasonable keyboard layout and quality touchpad that I could find on display in 2012. For the last 10 years, most laptops have been plastic, gimmicky, and loaded with dozens of pointless buttons and stickers.
    - motrine5 10y ago
      This. I don't have the budget for a new Macbook, but everytime in the past couple of years I've wanted to buy a new laptop, I go off to Best Buy, take a look at the plastic, gimmicky touch-screeny windows things they have for sale and end up going to craigslist to buy an almost new Macbook even though it costs a little more (ok sometimes quite a bit more)
    - TACIXAT 10y ago
      Did you not prove the parent comment's point? You were mostly concerned with aesthetics, the case material, keyboard layout, and stickers. I'm personally not a fan of the vendor lock in with Apple. You can spend similar money and get something that isn't difficult to replace the ram on, with slightly better specs, more disk space, etc. As long as you're cool with a plastic case ;)
      - astrange 10y ago
        The keyboard and trackpad are not aesthetics!
        KurtMueller 10y ago
        IMHO, Apple's "magic" trackpads are still best in class.
        KurtMueller 10y ago
        IMHO, Apple's "magic" trackpads are still best in class.
      - Retra 10y ago
        Most modern laptops are completely comparable in terms of hardware and software capabilities, so long as you aren't trying to do top-end gaming and super-computing. Administration is not significantly less painful on any one of them. This machine feels pleasant to use. It doesn't frustrate me or get in my way. (Unless I'm using finder or other awful OS X programs, but I'm not afraid of the terminal, so I just don't use those.)
arrty88 10y ago
Gaming on a laptop? Why
- callalex 10y ago
  Because most people can only afford one computer, and if you need a laptop, that will be your only option for gaming. Also it makes LAN parties 1000x more convenient.
- majewsky 10y ago
  A laptop is much easier to carry to a LAN party. (And yes, those still exist. I hosted one a few weeks ago, and it's still fun.)
- acdha 10y ago
  If you want a laptop for comfort and convenience, gaming has to be really important to you to justify spending at least that much again on a desktop. It's something else to find money, space, and time to maintain.
- paperpunk 10y ago
  Why not? An extra computer is a big investment just to play games.
  - bartvk 10y ago
    And it's not just the investment in money; there's maintenance as well. You don't boot it as often as your daily machine so every time you do, there's bound to be an update waiting.
- __david__ 10y ago
  I quite enjoy playing games on my laptop. I was worried the track pad would be terrible for fps games, but it's fine (though I always rebind right click since that doesn't work well on a Mac trackpad). Why buy a separate machine if the laptop works well?

ViViDboarder 10y ago

Right. I think that's the bigger point. The author says you used to pay a lot for Apple because you knew you were getting "the best computer". Now it's not so simple.

Nullabillity 10y ago
> The author says you used to pay a lot for Apple because you knew you were getting "the best computer". Must be rose-tinted glasses. Apple has been about peddling (what would otherwise be) low-end budget computers to fashion enthusiasts for massive markups for at least a decade.
- Retra 10y ago
  The only reason I bought an MBP is because it was the only aluminum-bodied, non-touchscreen laptop with a reasonable keyboard layout and quality touchpad that I could find on display in 2012. For the last 10 years, most laptops have been plastic, gimmicky, and loaded with dozens of pointless buttons and stickers.
  - motrine5 10y ago
    This. I don't have the budget for a new Macbook, but everytime in the past couple of years I've wanted to buy a new laptop, I go off to Best Buy, take a look at the plastic, gimmicky touch-screeny windows things they have for sale and end up going to craigslist to buy an almost new Macbook even though it costs a little more (ok sometimes quite a bit more)
  - TACIXAT 10y ago
    Did you not prove the parent comment's point? You were mostly concerned with aesthetics, the case material, keyboard layout, and stickers. I'm personally not a fan of the vendor lock in with Apple. You can spend similar money and get something that isn't difficult to replace the ram on, with slightly better specs, more disk space, etc. As long as you're cool with a plastic case ;)
    - astrange 10y ago
      The keyboard and trackpad are not aesthetics!
      - KurtMueller 10y ago
        IMHO, Apple's "magic" trackpads are still best in class.
      - KurtMueller 10y ago
        IMHO, Apple's "magic" trackpads are still best in class.
    - Retra 10y ago
      Most modern laptops are completely comparable in terms of hardware and software capabilities, so long as you aren't trying to do top-end gaming and super-computing. Administration is not significantly less painful on any one of them. This machine feels pleasant to use. It doesn't frustrate me or get in my way. (Unless I'm using finder or other awful OS X programs, but I'm not afraid of the terminal, so I just don't use those.)

arrty88 10y ago

Gaming on a laptop? Why

callalex 10y ago
Because most people can only afford one computer, and if you need a laptop, that will be your only option for gaming. Also it makes LAN parties 1000x more convenient.
majewsky 10y ago
A laptop is much easier to carry to a LAN party. (And yes, those still exist. I hosted one a few weeks ago, and it's still fun.)
acdha 10y ago
If you want a laptop for comfort and convenience, gaming has to be really important to you to justify spending at least that much again on a desktop. It's something else to find money, space, and time to maintain.
paperpunk 10y ago
Why not? An extra computer is a big investment just to play games.
- bartvk 10y ago
  And it's not just the investment in money; there's maintenance as well. You don't boot it as often as your daily machine so every time you do, there's bound to be an update waiting.
__david__ 10y ago
I quite enjoy playing games on my laptop. I was worried the track pad would be terrible for fps games, but it's fine (though I always rebind right click since that doesn't work well on a Mac trackpad). Why buy a separate machine if the laptop works well?