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Sorry, can you elaborate on why you can't justify buying Macs anymore? It sounds like you're interested in local storage and you're okay with buying old machine

by gareim 10y ago

Sorry, can you elaborate on why you can't justify buying Macs anymore? It sounds like you're interested in local storage and you're okay with buying old machines if it means you don't deal with cloud, so how come Macs don't fall under this?

protomyth 10y ago
I cannot justify them because they are old and we keep computers for a long time. If we buy an old computer now, its useful lifetime is reduced. We want new, always. The local storage is a requirement for new computers. The only Mac we will purchase currently is the MacBook. If MacRumors says don't buy then we don't buy.
- gareim 10y ago
  >and will buy old machines rather than deal with problems in that area Assuming that you don't find another alternative, then I assume buying old Macs would then be okay? I'm not sure what the rationale is for not buying one year old laptops if performance is about level (Skylake was not that earth shattering).
  - protomyth 10y ago
    Ok, not great and definitely under protest (I guess I scream at the ceiling). At some point, we might need to go to Win 10 and a built PC for Adobe. Might be good training for a PC Hardware class. Its one year closer to being EOL, plus Apple has been on a bit of a no software support for older models streak. The money needs to stretch as far as possible, we're not rich.
    - lostlogin 10y ago
      That streak of low/no support started around the time I was born. Their support of old hardware is better now than ever imho. It's a great time to own an old Mac as even the new ones are old, so you don't pay the penalty of having to upgrade which you did 5-10 years ago.
      - protomyth 10y ago
        > Their support of old hardware is better now than ever imho No, it was way better earlier. We had some incredibly old PowerPCs running forever. Now, I have 64-bit Xeon boxes that aren't supported.
        lostlogin 10y ago
        Running on the OS they shipped with or being updated? I recall hardware moving fast and machines becoming old quickly. Chuck Yager et al were the sort of software I was using at that stage, so take my memory with a grain of salt.
        protomyth 10y ago
        updated - they did pretty well until the later Cat series of OSes.

by gareim 10y ago

protomyth 10y ago

I cannot justify them because they are old and we keep computers for a long time. If we buy an old computer now, its useful lifetime is reduced. We want new, always. The local storage is a requirement for new computers. The only Mac we will purchase currently is the MacBook. If MacRumors says don't buy then we don't buy.

gareim 10y ago
>and will buy old machines rather than deal with problems in that area Assuming that you don't find another alternative, then I assume buying old Macs would then be okay? I'm not sure what the rationale is for not buying one year old laptops if performance is about level (Skylake was not that earth shattering).
- protomyth 10y ago
  Ok, not great and definitely under protest (I guess I scream at the ceiling). At some point, we might need to go to Win 10 and a built PC for Adobe. Might be good training for a PC Hardware class. Its one year closer to being EOL, plus Apple has been on a bit of a no software support for older models streak. The money needs to stretch as far as possible, we're not rich.
  - lostlogin 10y ago
    That streak of low/no support started around the time I was born. Their support of old hardware is better now than ever imho. It's a great time to own an old Mac as even the new ones are old, so you don't pay the penalty of having to upgrade which you did 5-10 years ago.
    - protomyth 10y ago
      > Their support of old hardware is better now than ever imho No, it was way better earlier. We had some incredibly old PowerPCs running forever. Now, I have 64-bit Xeon boxes that aren't supported.
      - lostlogin 10y ago
        Running on the OS they shipped with or being updated? I recall hardware moving fast and machines becoming old quickly. Chuck Yager et al were the sort of software I was using at that stage, so take my memory with a grain of salt.
        protomyth 10y ago
        updated - they did pretty well until the later Cat series of OSes.