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New Update to the Microsoft Services Agreement

43 points by Aaronn 10y ago

djsumdog 10y ago
Anyone have a diff or analysis?
- notimetorelax 10y ago
  What about the FAQ on the linked page? They seem to have highlighted what changed.
- jlgaddis 10y ago
  "Summary of Changes": https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/Updates.aspx https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/Updates.as...
  - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
    This would make a lot more sense to me to be the URL of this submission.
morganvachon 10y ago
When you share Your Content with other people, you understand that they may be able to, on a worldwide basis, use, save, record, reproduce, transmit, display (and on HealthVault delete) Your Content without compensating you. If you do not want others to have that ability, do not use the Services to share Your Content. The wording is ambiguous, but it seems as if Microsoft is saying that they aren't responsible for other people stealing your copyrighted works or deleting(!) your health information. While that is technically true (i.e. you can't hold Facebook or Pinterest or Instagram liable if someone scrapes your public posts and resells the images/videos), the wording makes it sound like they are trying to discourage you from even using their services in the first place. It's a really odd way to get the point across; they could have done a much better job of it. The HealthVault thing is particularly worrying; why call the service a "vault" if it can't prevent a third party from destroying the data?
- Bjartr 10y ago
  I'll venture to guess that the healthvault difference might be for sharing information with a doctor or caretaker. Then at least there's the case of deleting incorrect information.
- jpalomaki 10y ago
  Lawyers vs marketing people? I think there is a risk that if you try to soften the language, then somebody could claim Microsoft was downplaying the risks even they were clearly aware of them, Bad things happen and even if Microsoft did everything properly to protect the data, there is always the risk that user is sloppy with managing his credentials and 3rd party gains access to the account that way and deletes something.

43 points by Aaronn 10y ago

djsumdog 10y ago

Anyone have a diff or analysis?

notimetorelax 10y ago
What about the FAQ on the linked page? They seem to have highlighted what changed.
jlgaddis 10y ago
"Summary of Changes": https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/Updates.aspx https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/Updates.as...
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  This would make a lot more sense to me to be the URL of this submission.

morganvachon 10y ago

When you share Your Content with other people, you understand that they may be able to, on a worldwide basis, use, save, record, reproduce, transmit, display (and on HealthVault delete) Your Content without compensating you. If you do not want others to have that ability, do not use the Services to share Your Content. The wording is ambiguous, but it seems as if Microsoft is saying that they aren't responsible for other people stealing your copyrighted works or deleting(!) your health information. While that is technically true (i.e. you can't hold Facebook or Pinterest or Instagram liable if someone scrapes your public posts and resells the images/videos), the wording makes it sound like they are trying to discourage you from even using their services in the first place. It's a really odd way to get the point across; they could have done a much better job of it. The HealthVault thing is particularly worrying; why call the service a "vault" if it can't prevent a third party from destroying the data?

Bjartr 10y ago
I'll venture to guess that the healthvault difference might be for sharing information with a doctor or caretaker. Then at least there's the case of deleting incorrect information.
jpalomaki 10y ago
Lawyers vs marketing people? I think there is a risk that if you try to soften the language, then somebody could claim Microsoft was downplaying the risks even they were clearly aware of them, Bad things happen and even if Microsoft did everything properly to protect the data, there is always the risk that user is sloppy with managing his credentials and 3rd party gains access to the account that way and deletes something.