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I think this is a ridiculous change by Apple, going completely against the idea of Unicode and consistent character displays across different devices. Author's

I think this is a ridiculous change by Apple, going completely against the idea of Unicode and consistent character displays across different devices. Author's suggestion is good, but I don't think that this was a necessary change by any means in the first place.

matt4077 10y ago
I am 100% sure that it is 97% irrelevant, 2% within Apple's creative agency and 1% tots ok 'cause no gun > a gun is a pretty good heuristic.
- ensignet 10y ago
  cause no gun > a gun is a pretty good heuristic So you're into whitewashing over the realities of general human experience, in favour of feel-good-huggle-cuddly-numpkins?
  - Manishearth 10y ago
    Guns are not part of the "general human experience" in most countries.
    - a_t48 10y ago
      What metric are you defining "most" by?
    - lwhalen 10y ago
      Check your privilege.
cooper12 10y ago
Unicode only says that it's a gun, and only recommends how it should look. IME's are free to make the emojis look however they want at their discretion. Note Samsung's saltines instead of chocolate chip cookies for "U+1F36A Cookie". Consistency is laudable, but we live in a world with multiple cultures, meanings, and contexts, so in the end consistency might actually be more harmful and reductionist.
- teddyh 10y ago
  The unicode code chart¹ actually says “PISTOL = handgun, revolver”, and the reference glyph (with a larger version on page 4) is pretty clearly a Beretta M9.² ① http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf#14 http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf#14 ② http://www.beretta.com/en/m9/ http://www.beretta.com/en/m9/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M9
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    I can't figured out why you're getting downvoted. The reference seems valid.
    - morgante 10y ago
      There seem to be a bunch of people going through this thread down voting any responses which criticize the Apple decision. Apparently favoring communication consistency makes us gun nuts.
    - teddyh 10y ago
      Maybe it’s anti-gun people who think that I’m a gun nut? I actually had no idea what gun it was – I know nothing about guns – and had to search quite a lot before I found an image which fit the reference glyph. On reading that that particular model is the standard handgun for much of the US armed forces since 1990, it made sense that it would be chosen as a representative model of a “PISTOL”.
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    Apple is not alone though. On windows i get a colorful lasergun: http://i.imgur.com/bOC6M6H.png http://i.imgur.com/bOC6M6H.png http://emojipedia.org/microsoft/windows-10/pistol/ http://emojipedia.org/microsoft/windows-10/pistol/ Additionally, your pointing out that the example glyph looks like a beretta only has any kind of weight if you can also point to guidance that specifies to what level it should be followed.
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iconjack 10y ago
Yes, it's simply childish on Apple's part.

matt4077 10y ago

I am 100% sure that it is 97% irrelevant, 2% within Apple's creative agency and 1% tots ok 'cause no gun > a gun is a pretty good heuristic.

ensignet 10y ago
cause no gun > a gun is a pretty good heuristic So you're into whitewashing over the realities of general human experience, in favour of feel-good-huggle-cuddly-numpkins?
- Manishearth 10y ago
  Guns are not part of the "general human experience" in most countries.
  - a_t48 10y ago
    What metric are you defining "most" by?
  - lwhalen 10y ago
    Check your privilege.

cooper12 10y ago

Unicode only says that it's a gun, and only recommends how it should look. IME's are free to make the emojis look however they want at their discretion. Note Samsung's saltines instead of chocolate chip cookies for "U+1F36A Cookie". Consistency is laudable, but we live in a world with multiple cultures, meanings, and contexts, so in the end consistency might actually be more harmful and reductionist.

teddyh 10y ago
The unicode code chart¹ actually says “PISTOL = handgun, revolver”, and the reference glyph (with a larger version on page 4) is pretty clearly a Beretta M9.² ① http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf#14 http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf#14 ② http://www.beretta.com/en/m9/ http://www.beretta.com/en/m9/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M9
- tedmiston 10y ago
  I can't figured out why you're getting downvoted. The reference seems valid.
  - morgante 10y ago
    There seem to be a bunch of people going through this thread down voting any responses which criticize the Apple decision. Apparently favoring communication consistency makes us gun nuts.
  - teddyh 10y ago
    Maybe it’s anti-gun people who think that I’m a gun nut? I actually had no idea what gun it was – I know nothing about guns – and had to search quite a lot before I found an image which fit the reference glyph. On reading that that particular model is the standard handgun for much of the US armed forces since 1990, it made sense that it would be chosen as a representative model of a “PISTOL”.
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  Apple is not alone though. On windows i get a colorful lasergun: http://i.imgur.com/bOC6M6H.png http://i.imgur.com/bOC6M6H.png http://emojipedia.org/microsoft/windows-10/pistol/ http://emojipedia.org/microsoft/windows-10/pistol/ Additionally, your pointing out that the example glyph looks like a beretta only has any kind of weight if you can also point to guidance that specifies to what level it should be followed.
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iconjack 10y ago

Yes, it's simply childish on Apple's part.