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You're bringing up Ukrainian atrocities against Poles 70 years ago in a thread about crowns made of flowers and trying to somehow draw a line to current Ukraini

You're bringing up Ukrainian atrocities against Poles 70 years ago in a thread about crowns made of flowers and trying to somehow draw a line to current Ukrainian politics and conflict. It's basically straight from the Russian state media propaganda handbook.

trhway 10y ago
again, it wasn't me who brought the current Ukrainian politics and conflict in the thread about crowns made of flowers - read the article and the original top comment in the thread. It is not my fault that the current Ukrainian politics and conflict is due to the current regime celebrating the perpetrators of those atrocities and trying to follow the same policies. And Wikipedia isn't Russian propaganda, well at least i hope so.
- empthought 10y ago
  > the current Ukrainian politics and conflict is due to the current regime celebrating the perpetrators of those atrocities and trying to follow the same policies. This is propaganda pure and simple. There is no one in any position of power in Ukraine celebrating any of these things you have brought up. You are either a troll from Olgino or have been taken in by their garbage.
  - trhway 10y ago
    >There is no one in any position of power in Ukraine celebrating any of these things you have brought up. that is one big lie. Until of course you're trying to say that awarding the highest official national title of "Hero" to, building monuments to and naming streets after a person doesn't mean the celebration of the mass atrocities systematically committed by and under command of that person. Imagine how stupid that argument would sound if say Munich would have decided to have a Hitler-strasse today just to celebrate the great autobahn network construction performed by Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Commemoration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Commemoration
    - empthought 10y ago
      ...as if I don't live in a country with "Sheridan Circle" in its capital city... Anyway, false equivalence of Bandera and Hitler is also from the troll playbook. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-... "We had to write ‘ordinary posts’, about making cakes or music tracks we liked, but then every now and then throw in a political post about how the Kiev government is fascist, or that sort of thing."
      - trhway 10y ago
        > false equivalence of Bandera and Hitler you're right. Bandera committed genocide of 100K Jews and Poles while Hitler - 10M+ of Jews and Slavic people, so speaking mathematically Bandera is equivalent to "small Hitler" and the Kiev regime celebrating Bandera and claiming its heritage are the "small fascists".
        empthought 10y ago
        Bandera personally did no such thing and ordered no such thing. Harry Truman personally killed more Japanese people with two bombs than whatever you are falsely attributing to Bandera personally here. Why not criticize apple pie and barbecue because of its association with America and hence with such genocide? It makes as much sense as commenting on Ukrainian flower crowns. I think your comments here have spoken for themselves. Go find somewhere else to troll for pay.
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trhway 10y ago

again, it wasn't me who brought the current Ukrainian politics and conflict in the thread about crowns made of flowers - read the article and the original top comment in the thread. It is not my fault that the current Ukrainian politics and conflict is due to the current regime celebrating the perpetrators of those atrocities and trying to follow the same policies. And Wikipedia isn't Russian propaganda, well at least i hope so.

empthought 10y ago
> the current Ukrainian politics and conflict is due to the current regime celebrating the perpetrators of those atrocities and trying to follow the same policies. This is propaganda pure and simple. There is no one in any position of power in Ukraine celebrating any of these things you have brought up. You are either a troll from Olgino or have been taken in by their garbage.
- trhway 10y ago
  >There is no one in any position of power in Ukraine celebrating any of these things you have brought up. that is one big lie. Until of course you're trying to say that awarding the highest official national title of "Hero" to, building monuments to and naming streets after a person doesn't mean the celebration of the mass atrocities systematically committed by and under command of that person. Imagine how stupid that argument would sound if say Munich would have decided to have a Hitler-strasse today just to celebrate the great autobahn network construction performed by Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Commemoration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Commemoration
  - empthought 10y ago
    ...as if I don't live in a country with "Sheridan Circle" in its capital city... Anyway, false equivalence of Bandera and Hitler is also from the troll playbook. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-... "We had to write ‘ordinary posts’, about making cakes or music tracks we liked, but then every now and then throw in a political post about how the Kiev government is fascist, or that sort of thing."
    - trhway 10y ago
      > false equivalence of Bandera and Hitler you're right. Bandera committed genocide of 100K Jews and Poles while Hitler - 10M+ of Jews and Slavic people, so speaking mathematically Bandera is equivalent to "small Hitler" and the Kiev regime celebrating Bandera and claiming its heritage are the "small fascists".
      - empthought 10y ago
        Bandera personally did no such thing and ordered no such thing. Harry Truman personally killed more Japanese people with two bombs than whatever you are falsely attributing to Bandera personally here. Why not criticize apple pie and barbecue because of its association with America and hence with such genocide? It makes as much sense as commenting on Ukrainian flower crowns. I think your comments here have spoken for themselves. Go find somewhere else to troll for pay.
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